Round 3 - The Carolina Panthers Select DJ Johnson - EDGE - Oregon

[R0CKnR0LLA]

I never understood taking a guy that has crazy athleticism but poor production.

Like... he had that same athleticism in college, and didn't produce jack shtt with it. You expect him to somehow do even better in the pros? Going against much better competition? Where his athleticism doesn't even stand out anymore?

[PNW_PantherMan]

22 minutes ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

I never understood taking a guy that has crazy athleticism but poor production.

Like... he had that same athleticism in college, and didn't produce jack shtt with it. You expect him to somehow do even better in the pros? Going against much better competition? Where his athleticism doesn't even stand out anymore?

Well when you put it like that… we’re stupid huh?

[Newbie]

15 hours ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

I never understood taking a guy that has crazy athleticism but poor production.

Like... he had that same athleticism in college, and didn't produce jack shtt with it. You expect him to somehow do even better in the pros? Going against much better competition? Where his athleticism doesn't even stand out anymore?

Starting with Rhule we adopted this mindset that we could “coach up” players with superior athletic traits. That mindset has failed us every time. 

[toldozer]

2 hours ago, Newbie said:

Starting with Rhule we adopted this mindset that we could “coach up” players with superior athletic traits. That mindset has failed us every time. 

Heard an interesting point on wfnz (shocking I know). It no longer makes sense for gms, coaches to draft players that need "coaching up" but have raw athletic ability. By the time they reach that potential if they ever do, you're already fired. If they haven't proven it in college already they're going to get you fired in 2 years. Stop drafting guys on potential and draft fuging football players. Wallace over Payton Wilson for just one example. You want Dawgs Dan but how about you start with healthy guys that know how to play the position you're drafting them to play.

[LinvilleGorge]

I'm fine with taking late round flyers on athletes. I mean, you get into the 6th and 7th you're basically talking about guys with the measurables minus the production or guys with the production minus the measurables. You're just trying to find guys who can carve out a role to make your roster.

[PNW_PantherMan]

2 hours ago, Newbie said:

Starting with Rhule we adopted this mindset that we could “coach up” players with superior athletic traits. That mindset has failed us every time. 

Works at lower levels, but NFL players need a prerequisite level of football tools coming in.  There's simply not enough time to learn how to be an NFL player at age 23 or whatever.  It's a progression of skill through high school and college.

[Shotgun]

2 hours ago, Newbie said:

Starting with Rhule we adopted this mindset that we could “coach up” players with superior athletic traits. That mindset has failed us every time. 

The panthers like guys with great ability and no skills.

They also like guys with great skill and no ability.

 

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 minute ago, Shotgun said:

They also like guys with great skill and no ability.

*Citation needed

[electro's horse]

On 4/28/2023 at 10:10 PM, electro's horse said:

Okay

Am I ever wrong 

[Shotgun]

2 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

*Citation needed

I do think he is skilled, he's just so under qualified physically its hard to tell.  

[Waldo]

No more than 1 project per draft. 

Also, what staff have we had since Ron that coached up jack around here? Only staff that knows how to coach up players should be taking projects or it's just fantasy