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Panthers signing Yannick Ngakoue?

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1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

what does that have to do with YGM

He is probably a 4-3 DE who may not be suited for the 3-4 Strong OLB role--we shall see.  The need for another speed rusher could be due to a lack of understanding--the team can have 2 speed edge rushers in the game at the same time vs spread offenses, but the real need on this team is the OLB on the strong side--where the OLB is to play 2 gap to hold the edge first. To me, that is where we are questionable. Barno, Haynes, and Burns have the productivity to justify not adding another speed rusher (Weakside OLBs).  However, YGM and DJ and maybe Leota (UDFA) are all we have on the strong side.  If they do not see YGM as a fit, they could trade him--if they could get something for him.  If they could not, how is a new approach to the position going to be worth a roster spot.  Its complicated.

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22 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

A roster spot and maybe a conditional draft pick.  I still think they want to see him there first.

Yeah, I would too rather than just tossing him away for a late rounder. You gotta have just completely given up on a guy to do that.

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Have not given up on Yetur yet. I doubt the coaches have either since they have not got to see him first hand. I have some faith Envero willbe able to put him in the right places to produce.  He actually had a decent season last year or at least his most productive so far. Nice fumble recoveries and tackles.  

I could possibly see him being a Micheal Bennett in this defense. This defense will be Envero's baby. He has many tools to utilize. Chinn, Horn, Burns, Brown and possibly YGM.  It could be the second coming of the LOB. 

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44 minutes ago, mickeye76 said:

Have not given up on Yetur yet. I doubt the coaches have either since they have not got to see him first hand. I have some faith Envero willbe able to put him in the right places to produce.  He actually had a decent season last year or at least his most productive so far. Nice fumble recoveries and tackles.  

I could possibly see him being a Micheal Bennett in this defense. This defense will be Envero's baby. He has many tools to utilize. Chinn, Horn, Burns, Brown and possibly YGM.  It could be the second coming of the LOB. 

They could have him on the edge during running downs and move him inside to DE for passing situations--again, it is funny that we have no idea what he can do yet.  We can't trust the previous coaching staff enough to evaluate talent approaching their second contract negotiations--how does that happen?

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26 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

They could have him on the edge during running downs and move him inside to DE for passing situations--again, it is funny that we have no idea what he can do yet.  We can't trust the previous coaching staff enough to evaluate talent approaching their second contract negotiations--how does that happen?

Hence the comparison to Bennett.  My hope is YGM can fill that role or another. He is only 25 and has untapped potential because of the era of retardation.  That Chinn and Burns developed under those circumstances is amazing. I also hope Tremble and TMJ can finally reach their potential with better coaching. 

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1 hour ago, mickeye76 said:

Hence the comparison to Bennett.  My hope is YGM can fill that role or another. He is only 25 and has untapped potential because of the era of retardation.  That Chinn and Burns developed under those circumstances is amazing. I also hope Tremble and TMJ can finally reach their potential with better coaching. 

That brings up a rather unrelated point that probably needs its own thread:

Players that were misused under Rhule:

1. Bozeman--should have been starting.

2. Shenault--had 2 600 yard seasons before coming to Carolina.  Instead of getting better, he regressed because he was not used as a legit WR.

3. YGM--what was his role and how well was he coached?

4.  Marshall---showed promise after Wilks took over and they kicked Robby Chosen Robbie Coolio to the curb.

5.  Christensen---is he best at G?  Should he be a swing OT? 

6. Chinn.  Oh my, where to begin.

7. All CBs.  You can't have zone CBs playing press man as much as we did that.

8. Ricci--used as a FB/TE--except when Mays came in to play FB or when Tremble or Thomas were in at TE---he is a pass-catching TE who can play in the slot.

9. QBs--Carolina was always the place QBs came to end their careers.  Watch Darnold play well in SF--watch Mayfield continue to improve in tampa (after being in LA)>

 

That is how I see it.

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The Bills just signed Floyd to a 1 year deal. If we are going to sign Yannick, I think this would probably  be the time it heats up.  Prove it deal time for the remaining  edge rushers. Going back down the Reddick scenario. 

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23 minutes ago, Lurk21 said:

The Bills just signed Floyd to a 1 year deal. If we are going to sign Yannick, I think this would probably  be the time it heats up.  Prove it deal time for the remaining  edge rushers. Going back down the Reddick scenario. 

Also have Ed Oliver a four year extension.

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52 minutes ago, Soul Rebel said:

Damn....Floyd was the one I hoped we'd sign.

Yannick makes sense from a history with Reich and Wash, but doesn't seem like the type of EDGE we're looking to sign. Replicates what Burns does quite a bit. 

I think if we haven't made a signing yet among the available group we probably will stand pat until camp cuts roll around. Maybe not even then. Depends on TC.

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58 minutes ago, Soul Rebel said:

Damn....Floyd was the one I hoped we'd sign.

Yannick makes sense from a history with Reich and Wash, but doesn't seem like the type of EDGE we're looking to sign. Replicates what Burns does quite a bit. 

What does that last part mean?

Both Burns and Reddick are "speed" rushers

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1 hour ago, Soul Rebel said:

Damn....Floyd was the one I hoped we'd sign.

Yannick makes sense from a history with Reich and Wash, but doesn't seem like the type of EDGE we're looking to sign. Replicates what Burns does quite a bit. 

yeah - wouldn't want to replicate 10 sacks a season.. better go with an edge setter

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