Did we get hoodwinked on Miles Sanders

[jb2288]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's from an Eagles fan page.

Yes I know 

[CRA]

On 7/22/2023 at 6:46 PM, WarPanthers89 said:

Yeah we overpaid but we knew we needed a top talent at RB to help our rookie franchise QB, and ones who have Sanders combination of explosive running and catch ability is hard to find. We did overpay but the help he brings to Bryce will be money well spent…..we hope. He’s in his prime and just got close to 1300 yards rushing last year. 

Miles Sanders isn't a top talent though.  I mean, that is the reality of it.  He is a solid RB.  He cracked 1000 yards for the first time in his career last year (behind arguably the best OL in the league) and hasn't caught a receiving TD since 2019.   

 

[CPcavedweller]

On 7/22/2023 at 6:39 PM, Tbe said:

Sanders was the highest paid FA RB this year. 
 

We over paid.

It's the Panther way.

That said, ask me in January.

Edited July 24, 2023 by CPcavedweller

[DeAngelo Beason]

We overpaid a bit, but there are only two (barely) noteworthy RBs on that list for the Eagles.  The rest are guys that will only see the light of day if the first two are injured (which would effectively mean the Eagles "wasted" money on their top 2 RBs).  I don't see them as having value, so one could easily argue the eagles are wasting $4m on RBs.

[NorthTryon]

Sanders got his numbers last year with low usage. Eagles fans bellyached over the fact that they left so many yards on the field not using him enough. I remember in the championship, he basically stood on the sideline after an impactful first quarter. We got a running back with great talent who did not have a high usage rate scheduled to work here one year after age 30 and we could cut him before that for next to nothing.

Annnnnnd please stop acting like CMC is the greatest RB to put on a uniform. Injury prone and still on some would/could if he stays healthy. 

[ladypanther]

 

 

13 minutes ago, NorthTryon said:

We got a running back with great talent who did not have a high usage rate

Yep.

 

2022 rushing attempt leaders

 

Sanders career NFL carries:

[CRA]

Biggest concern with Sanders is his lack of production after first contact.  He was running behind the best OL in the NFL and with huge holes thanks to the push and Hurts. 

Miles Sanders ranked I believe 65th in terms of average production after first contact.   And the Eagles thought others were better pass catching options.  I think the pass catching RB is the hole on this roster given we are starting a rookie.  Because you load up to stop the run vs Bryce Young.  I think we need a backfield that can handle about 80 receptions. 

[ladypanther]

5 minutes ago, CRA said:

Biggest concern with Sanders is his lack of production after first contact.  He was running behind the best OL in the NFL and with huge holes thanks to the push and Hurts. 

Miles Sanders ranked I believe 65th in terms of average production after first contact.  

Looks like best rank was last year at #10. Worst was 2021 at #43

 

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2021

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2019

 

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-rb.php?year=2019

[CRA]

11 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

Looks like best rank was last year at #10. Worst was 2021 at #43

 

2022

 

2021

2020

 

2019

 

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-rb.php?year=2019

Take the first graph.  The YACON/ATT and sort that one.  The 1.7 number.  That's the stat/ranking I was referencing. 

[mickeye76]

We have Sanders for a couple years and I am thinking he will be productive. In the next couple drafts we should target his eventual heir. The league is bipolar. Couple years ago FA running backs were getting big contracts and nobody was drafting RB's in the first. Now you had Gibbs and Robinson going high but Barkley/ Jacobs  can't get  extensions and Cook is sitting on his couch right now.  We got the guy we wanted and no I don't think it was a gross overpay. 

[JawnyBlaze]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

Take the first graph.  The YACON/ATT and sort that one.  The 1.7 number.  That's the stat/ranking I was referencing. 

Same as Najae Harris, better than Joe Mixon, barely behind CMC. Good company to be in. 

[jtm]

Yes we overpaid but with a rookie QB, we needed a stud RB.  If we overpaid by a couple million, who cares if Miles is the right guy and he'll be one of the few RBs that is happy with his contract and ready to run through a brick wall.  The cap is so big these days and we are way ahead of everyone with a rookie QB contract.  

[Wundrbread33]

I don’t think it matters much since we have a QB on a rookie deal. 
 

Eagles have a different situation to work with. 
 

And it ain’t my money so I don’t care at all. If he performs, then no one will think about 7.2 mil. 

[CRA]

27 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Same as Najae Harris, better than Joe Mixon, barely behind CMC. Good company to be in. 

Still puts him at 65 though.   And if you look at the Eagles backs, they had a couple guys in the top 10. 

I mean you can go back to the Double Trouble days.  People have never liked my take on RBs and money.  I'm generally never a fan of how we manage that spot.   I don't like drafting them high.  I don't like paying them after their rookie year.  and I don't like paying FAs "good" money.  

If you build a quality OL, you can build a good committee for cheap.  Put the money into the pass game and defnese.