Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Yannick Ngakoue


Puresteel55
 Share

Recommended Posts

9 hours ago, GOAT said:

Bears slowly becoming one of my most hated teams

Despite Ngakoue’s steadiness at piling up sacks, his lack of overall impact as a pass rusher and inconsistency as a run stopper were likely the reasons the Colts did not seek to retain him in free agency.

Ngakoue, drafted in the third round of the 2016 NFL Draft by Jacksonville, has played for the Jaguars, Vikings, Ravens, Raiders and Colts. He earned a Pro Bowl spot in 2017.

https://theathletic.com/4748074/2023/08/03/yannick-ngakoue-bears-contract/

He has played for a bunch of teams.  Seems like a red flag.  Also not sure we need to add someone who is not good in the run game.  As someone said...Reich knows him.  There is a reason the Panthers passed.

  • Pie 2
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

Despite Ngakoue’s steadiness at piling up sacks, his lack of overall impact as a pass rusher and inconsistency as a run stopper were likely the reasons the Colts did not seek to retain him in free agency.

Ngakoue, drafted in the third round of the 2016 NFL Draft by Jacksonville, has played for the Jaguars, Vikings, Ravens, Raiders and Colts. He earned a Pro Bowl spot in 2017.

https://theathletic.com/4748074/2023/08/03/yannick-ngakoue-bears-contract/

He has played for a bunch of teams.  Seems like a red flag.  Also not sure we need to add someone who is not good in the run game.  As someone said...Reich knows him.  There is a reason the Panthers passed.

As much hopefulness we can have with the new coaches and Young, I’m glad we aren’t signing guys like this. We spent like drunken sailors since Rhule started and frankly, wasted it on teams that were never going to compete for a championship. Mayfield, Darnold and Teddy will never win a SB as a real starter, not a one game injury replacement.

I’m excited about Young, been wanting a top rookie since Cam, but I know we aren’t at the KC, Philly, Buffalo, Bengal, SF (with a real QB), etc. level yet. There’s nothing wrong with saying that after 29 wins in 5 years. We have plenty of holes and Yannick isn’t adding enough to spend $10M we can rollover to use in Young year 2/3.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Exactly. Panthers won't become a true contender without developing their own draft picks. Listen to Evero and read about the Fangio, Staley, Evero gap and a half scheme. It's not a fit if he's not a willing run defender. And Reich knows. Not at all upset he signed elsewhere. 

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I didn't realize to what extent that Reich was already familiar with Ngakwoue. I mean, I always knew that Ngakwoue wasn't an A-lister & somewhat of a disappointment, but I believed that maybe he needed a new start. I didn't know that he had so many. I won't argue against Reich and company on this one. They were probably right. 

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

I didn't realize to what extent that Reich was already familiar with Ngakwoue. I mean, I always knew that Ngakwoue wasn't an A-lister & somewhat of a disappointment, but I believed that maybe he needed a new start. I didn't know that he had so many. I won't argue against Reich and company on this one. They were probably right. 

yeah 10 mil this late is insanity. Either Clowney at $5 mil or we ride with roster cut downs.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 8/4/2023 at 11:40 AM, top dawg said:

I didn't realize to what extent that Reich was already familiar with Ngakwoue. I mean, I always knew that Ngakwoue wasn't an A-lister & somewhat of a disappointment, but I believed that maybe he needed a new start. I didn't know that he had so many. I won't argue against Reich and company on this one. They were probably right. 

One early red flag was his stint with the Vikings.  They traded a 2nd rounder to acquire him.  He had 5 sacks in 6 games and they traded him to the Ravens for less than they spent to acquire him.

The Ravens were trying to acquire Yannick from the Jags but got outbid by the Vikings.  After half of a season of the Yannick experience, neither the Vikings or Ravens wanted anything to do with him.  That's when he signed a free agent deal with the Raiders.  Here is where it gets interesting.  The Jags HC was Gus Bradley when Yannick was drafted.  Gus Bradley was the Raiders DC when they signed Yannick in free agency.  After a year the Raiders traded Yannick to the Colts.  The Colts had just signed Gus Bradley to be their DC.  So 3 of his stops involved Gus Bradley.  That reminds me of when Pat Shurmur kept extending a lifeline to Sam Bradford.

The strange part about Yannick is he doesn't have a high win rate as a pass rusher.  A majority of his sacks are coverage sacks, missed assignments and cleanup sacks.  But since he is able to string together enough of them each season, fans think he is a good pass rusher and the fact that he is a liability against the run shouldn't matter.  I think one fan said it best that Yannick shows up for 15 plays per season and worthless for the other 700 snaps.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Have you seen the mock drafts lately?   Most of them have us taking a QB. Just because you aren't high on these QBs doesn't mean the Panthers or other teams aren't.   If you want me to be real I just think you a Tmac homer and all you care about is us drafting him. It's why you get so defensive when people mention other prospects.   Be open to other people's ideas. Nobody in this thread is saying anything bad about your boy Tmac. 
    • Oh good lord Interest doesn't mean interest in making a bad trade to take the player, that's why I had such a long post, to accurately describe why those are two different things, but you don't like to listen to that stuff.  Being interested in a player doesn't live in a vacuum. It's very simple... there isn't a #1 draft pick type of grade on any of these QB's, if there was, we'd just take them.  You can't bluff a pick everyone knows you won't make, and trying to trade the pick is the CLEAR signal that you're not taking the QB. Just because the Raiders would have interest, doesn't mean they're going to bail us out of a situation we don't want to be in, they'd be smart about it and just sit put, let us take a non QB as we'd be telling the world we're not taking one just by trying to trade the pick, and then they'd take him at #2 (either with their own pick or by trading less to get that one). Oh, and your point of "if nobody is willing to make the trade, you obviously just take the best QB" is quite literally the dumbest thing I've ever read on here. If nobody is willing to trade up to take the QB, then it's OBVIOUS that the QB isn't worth taking with that pick, so OBVIOUSLY taking the best QB there is just OBVIOUSLY stupid and a bad pick. The moral of it is if there is a QB worth taking, we're taking them and not making the trade.  If there isn't a QB worth taking there, nobody is trading up to #1 to take one, we just showed the NFL how bad of an idea that is 2 years ago, it's really not hard to see. You keep making up this mythical situation where there is a QB who has shown to be worth trading up to #1 for and we'll be able to leverage that into a trade.  But we're the most QB needy team in the league, if we end up with the #1 pick, either we are taking a QB #1 or no QB is going #1 unless we get VERY lucky and two teams in the Top 5 fall in love with one prospect and we can play them off each other and fleece one of them. But again, I can't see that happening, as if there was a QB worthy of that, we're just taking him ourselves.
    • Sanders is with Tom Brady brand and that's his mentor. The Raiders owner was with Sanders taking pics at a Vegas game together.   It doesn't take much to connect the dots that Vegas will be interested in Sanders as their franchise QB. Oh yeah and guess who hasa small ownership stake in the Raiders Tom Brady.   I guess this is just another made up Madden idea by me huh?
×
×
  • Create New...