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REPORT: Panthers and Brian Burns not at all close to extension

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TJ Watt's $28M was signed in September 2021 when the NFL salary cap was $182.5M. That $28M/yr avg was 15% of the cap.

If Brian Burns gets signed to a $28M/yr avg in 2023 when the salary cap is $224.8M that would account for 12.5% of the cap.

Paying Burns $28M/yr is not as impactful to the team as it was to the Steelers when TJ Watt signed his deal. Comparing the two is being willfully dismissive of the important detail that the cap today is over $40M more today.

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20 hours ago, Castavar said:

Well if that were the case, then why the hell did they not just trade him for the 2 1st rounders then? Make no mistake, if Burns does not get a new contract, we will be having new people in that front office.

That decision is a big fat red letter on their face right now 

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2 hours ago, Icege said:

TJ Watt's $28M was signed in September 2021 when the NFL salary cap was $182.5M. That $28M/yr avg was 15% of the cap.

If Brian Burns gets signed to a $28M/yr avg in 2023 when the salary cap is $224.8M that would account for 12.5% of the cap.

Paying Burns $28M/yr is not as impactful to the team as it was to the Steelers when TJ Watt signed his deal. Comparing the two is being willfully dismissive of the important detail that the cap today is over $40M more today.

Solid point. Thanks for the breakdown. 

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2 hours ago, Icege said:

TJ Watt's $28M was signed in September 2021 when the NFL salary cap was $182.5M. That $28M/yr avg was 15% of the cap.

If Brian Burns gets signed to a $28M/yr avg in 2023 when the salary cap is $224.8M that would account for 12.5% of the cap.

Paying Burns $28M/yr is not as impactful to the team as it was to the Steelers when TJ Watt signed his deal. Comparing the two is being willfully dismissive of the important detail that the cap today is over $40M more today.

I was already okay with giving him 28-30 before this, hadn't realized how much the cap had really risen since Watt's deal, this makes it seem even more of a no brainer to give him the money.

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1 hour ago, Gerry Green said:

People going nuts over 3mil. What can you get for that? It's not enough to bring in a top shelf player, but it's enough to send a lot of Huddlers into a rage. Damm I love this place.

And for what in the grand scheme of things? Given the same period of time, the salary cap in 2025 is projected to be $282M. That's a $57.2M increase compared to $42.3M increase that took place between 2021 and 2023. That's almost $15M more.

Just pay the man up to $28M. He might push for $30M, and if that's the difference between losing him to free agency and locking him down for the next 4yrs just pay it. If he's asking for Bosa money though, there's a million arguments against it. Getting $2M-4M less average value? Sounds like a win-win.

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2 minutes ago, Icege said:

And for what in the grand scheme of things? Given the same period of time, the salary cap in 2025 is projected to be $282M. That's a $57.2M increase compared to $42.3M increase that took place between 2021 and 2023. That's almost $15M more.

Just pay the man up to $28M. He might push for $30M, and if that's the difference between losing him to free agency and locking him down for the next 4yrs just pay it. If he's asking for Bosa money though, there's a million arguments against it. Getting $2M-4M less average value? Sounds like a win-win.

 

Sometimes the Huddle really does confuse me. Is there really that much difference between 27mil and 30mil to talk this much trash about one of our best players? Who actually wants to be here? I truly believe most of these folks would argue about anything. Whether they believe it or not. It's like a sport for them. lol

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1 hour ago, Gerry Green said:

People going nuts over 3mil. What can you get for that? It's not enough to bring in a top shelf player, but it's enough to send a lot of Huddlers into a rage. Damm I love this place.

It’s about guaranteed money.  And that’s not a 3 mill squabble.  Bosa doubled what top tier pass rushers like Burns have been getting.  That’s a 60+ million guaranteed difference 

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It’s about guaranteed money.  And that’s not a 3 mill squabble.  Bosa doubled what top tier pass rushers like Burns have been getting.  That’s a 60+ million guaranteed difference 

 

You have no clue what Burns is wanting. And avg that out over the life of a 5 year deal it really may not be that big of a deal. 

 

I love how folks just know exactly what is going on. Speculation. Thy name is Huddle.

 

Either way, it is no excuse for some of the vitriol thrown at Brian the last few days.

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9 minutes ago, Gerry Green said:

 

You have no clue what Burns is wanting. And avg that out over the life of a 5 year deal it really may not be that big of a deal. 

 

I love how folks just know exactly what is going on. Speculation. Thy name is Huddle.

 

Either way, it is no excuse for some of the vitriol thrown at Brian the last few days.

I know the guaranteed money Chubb, Von Miller, Reddick etc just got.  

I know the money Bosa just got.

thats a 60+ million difference  in guaranteed money from Bosa and those guys.  

Guaranteed is what matters most and you ain’t even talking that lol.   That’s what matters most.  And that the primary discussion in most big deals. 

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1 minute ago, CRA said:

I know the guaranteed money Chubb, Von Miller, Reddick etc got.  

I know the money Bosa just got.

thats a 60+ million difference  in guaranteed money from Bosa and those guys.  

Guaranteed is what matters most and you ain’t even talking that lol. 

 

Using past contracts to make a point in the present. Gotta love that spin.

 

Again, when you can come at me with actual numbers.

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