REPORT: Panthers and Brian Burns not at all close to extension

[Carl Spackler]

To be fair, my Patriots fan buddy in college said their board was full of threads like "trade Brady, start Cassel, use the money for other positions, continue dynasty"

[jfra78]

7 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

To be fair, my Patriots fan buddy in college said their board was full of threads like "trade Brady, start Cassel, use the money for other positions, continue dynasty"

So what you're saying is fans make shitty GMs?

[Carl Spackler]

Just now, jfra78 said:

So what you're saying is fans make shitty GMs?

Scott Fitterer's a pretty normal fan then

[BlackPanther22]

I’m not fully out on Fitterer despite my frustration with how this situation has been handled. I do wonder sometimes though how things would be had Tepper hired Andrew Berry like he reportedly wanted to back in 2020. I believe the only reason he didn’t hire Berry was because he didn’t want to get rid of Hurney at the time and they were trying to get Berry as an assistant GM — probably with the intent to promote him after they fired Hurney — which was a lateral move. 
 

 

[Coheed]

24 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

"I wouldn't have given Burrow an extension. You could trade him and net 2-3 first round picks, then use that money on linebackers, running backs and a solid veteran backup QB"

I generally agree with the argument you’re making and hope we resign Burns but you can’t really compare a good DE/Edge to an Elite franchise QB, there not even remotely close in impact.

[therealmjl]

2 minutes ago, BlackPanther22 said:

I’m not fully out on Fitterer despite my frustration with how this situation has been handled. I do wonder sometimes though how things would be had Tepper hired Andrew Berry like he reportedly wanted to back in 2020. I believe the only reason he didn’t hire Berry was because he didn’t want to get rid of Hurney at the time and they were trying to get Berry as an assistant GM — probably with the intent to promote him after they fired Hurney — which was a lateral move. 
 

 

Well if that happened and everything else stayed the same Deshaun Watson would be a panther lol

[Carl Spackler]

Just now, Coheed said:

I generally agree with the argument you’re making and hope we resign Burns but you can’t really compare a good DE/Edge to an Elite franchise QB, there not even remotely close in impact.

Burns is closer to elite than he is to good. That's not opinion, it's backed by fact (and market value).

[Coheed]

5 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

Burns is closer to elite than he is to good. That's not opinion, it's backed by fact (and market value).

Purely your subjective opinion.

[Jackie Lee]

 

[Swaggasaurus]

13 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

Burns is closer to elite than he is to good. That's not opinion, it's backed by fact (and market value).

Elite POTENTIAL as a one trick pony speed rusher. Hasn’t shown to be elite yet. Will never be an elite complete edge.

[Chaos]

2 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

Spidey sad, Spidey wants the bag

[Aussie Tank]

Nut up and sign the offer Burns. Pretty weak pulling this poo in the lead up to week 1 of the season and not in preseason. Especially after all this I’m here for the team bullshit he was spewing 

[CRA]

2 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

pass rushers of Burns ability don't hit the open market, if you want one, you have to "overpay" to get/keep them.

I can name several that hit the open market in the last couple years.  And there contracts are out there.   And the league isn’t and hasn’t been paying those types Bosa money.   The pass rushing specialist tier is a different pay tier.   And heck, there are some more well rounded ones than Burns that have signed very recent deals. 

[CRA]

2 hours ago, Gerry Green said:

 

I like how you cherry pick his sacks. Like he hasn't improved them every year. Way to minimize his growth.

 

It is almost criminal how little respect Burns gets around here.

It’s not cherry picking.  It is what it is.  He had one year of double digit sacks. 

Burns isn’t coming off some crazy Von Miller caliber rookie contract play.   Burns isn’t even matching journeymen pass rushers like Reddick. 

and people are talking about cartoon money being cool.  

Front office made a mess of this.  Because we have a weak front office.  It’s largely the same one that has been making a mess of it all the past several years.  Switching out Rhule for Frank doesn’t change the fact more issues exist in BOA that weren’t named Rhule. 

Nothing we can do about Tepper.  Fitt should have gone with Rhule.