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The Athletic: Insight to Brian Burns Contract


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Some interesting nuggets from the latest Athletic article.

https://theathletic.com/4832487/2023/09/04/panthers-brian-burns-hold-in/?source=user_shared_article

On what $$$ Burns is eyeing vs Panthers FO

"General manager Scott Fitterer has said repeatedly that he wants Burns around for the long term. But while Burns is eyeing Bosa-type money at the top end of the edge rusher market, the Panthers are seemingly more comfortable with a deal that pays Burns about $23 million a year, similar to what Maxx Crosbyreceived (a $23.5 million annual value) when the Las Vegas Raiders extended him last year."

On a potential financial incentive for Brian Burns to go to Training Camp while holding out now:

"By coming to training camp, Burns avoided the fines that Bosa and Kansas City Chiefs defensive lineman Chris Jones have racked up. The 49ers have said they would waive Bosa’s fines, which the NFLPA allows for players on their rookie deals."

On consequences if Burns continues to miss practice or potential games:

"The Panthers could fine Burns if he continues to skip practices. If he were to sit out games, he would forfeit nearly $890,000 a week — or 1/18th of his $16 million salary that was guaranteed when the Panthers picked up his fifth-year option.

On timeline for a resolution:

"Thompson believes a resolution is needed by Wednesday when the Panthers’ Week 1 work will begin in earnest: 'We know he’s gonna be out there at the end of the day,” he said. “He knows he’s gonna be out there at the end of the day. And everybody upstairs better know he’s gonna be out there by Wednesday. He’s a big factor (in) this defense. He’s the one it really starts with, him and Derrick (Brown). They’ll make it right.'"

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2 minutes ago, Smithers said:

For 23M, he better get 15 sacks and not get taken out of the game on run plays by tight ends. 

I understand what you're saying, but the market is the market. It's his turn to get, perhaps, overpaid by a little bit, but not a lot. His age and potential is unfortunately a factor. All we can do is hope that he reaches his potential.

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10 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I understand what you're saying, but the market is the market. It's his turn to get, perhaps, overpaid by a little bit, but not a lot. His age and potential is unfortunately a factor. All we can do is hope that he reaches his potential.

Yeah people forget the average price goes up every year. Lamar, Herbert, and Hurts don’t “deserve” to get paid more than Mahomes, but they happen to be the most recent franchise QBs that signed new contracts. 

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Bosa money means Bosa results. I'm pro Burns but even I know he isn't on that level. He could be. But this is on the front office and Fitterer. They signaled to Burns he's the golden goose when they turned down the trade. Should have swallowed their pride and ironed out a deal weeks ago.

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1 minute ago, carpanfan96 said:

Quite a lot, might be part of the holdup. But tons of contracts have ltbe and nltbe incentives in them. You can also do option bonus as part of an Escalating contract.

If he thinks he is deserving of  Bosa contract...set him up so that he gets that if he proves it.

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