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37 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

It’s kinda crazy how much meat was left on the bone with Stephon Gilmore when the Pats dumped him.  Guys a stud.

What's crazier is how good their track record is with those though.

I think they know that sometimes they'll make the wrong call and dump someone too early, but because of it, they rarely screw up and keep a player for too long and they historically have been great at knowing the right time to get rid of someone for a good return right before they fall off.

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3 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

A QB can't win by himself, but making 40+ mil a year you better be able to get the ball out quicker. He's just not that good bro.

 

It's okay to say they overpaid for a bottom 10 starting QB.

Oh I don't care enough about Jones to defend him. I'm just being objective about THIS game. 

Is he a great QB? Heck no. Is he the reason they're getting their ish pushed in right now? No. No he isn't. 

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