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Post Mortem: Game 1

Mr. Scot

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2 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

nice post, keeping it less reactionary..but...

I don't think it's out of bounds to say Bryce's accuracy was pretty off today and it just wasn't the best performance.  We can say that without crying out he's a bust or anything like that.  

He had a few good moments but I actually thought he seemed a tad anxious back there and was throwing behind, sailed a few as well.  Had one very nice drive that showed promise.  

The entire passing game is what I found disappointing.  Play design, play calls, and Young.  It's unfortunate, particularly because this is what we've been used to and wanted to be rid of, and were promised to be rid of. 

Onto next week.  Better look a whole lot more competent.  I'll give Bryce time, but the playbook didn't look pretty off the bat.  

He tailed off as the game went on, but that's not really a huge surprise for a rookie.

Haven't seen a load of rookie first games in my time, I can definitely tell you I've seen way worse 😄

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Well my feelings are all the same as they have been 

- Frank shouldn’t be calling plays 

- we need better skill talent around Bryce.   We lack the type players that can really help a rookie that is isn’t going to be threatening deep. 

- we should of added more depth to the backfield 

- it’s a rebuild so I don’t care about w/l.  Care about what we are doing to help Bryce grow.  And I think the front office could have done a better job at that than they did in terms of the bodies around him on O. 

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7 minutes ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

A lot of us are tired of reading your conjecture. Having 100,000 post doesn’t mean you’re right about anything. The coaching staff looked like what many of us thought. And Young was disappointing. You can look promising as a rookie QB. Today, he did not. 

You know, you’re not required to read any post by any one ?? I mean I think you can even block them . 
The whining on here today was worse than when Rhule was here..  in my opinion. 

why do posters feel to need to whine .. they only post on a bad play,, 

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4 minutes ago, CRA said:

Well my feelings are all the same as they have been 

- Frank shouldn’t be calling plays 

- we need better skill talent around Bryce.   We lack the type players that can really help a rookie that is isn’t going to be threatening deep. 

- we should of added more depth to the backfield 

- it’s a rebuild so I don’t care about w/l.  Care about what we are doing to help Bryce grow.  And I think the front office could have done a better job at that than they did in terms of the bodies around him on O. 

Who should be calling plays then?

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7 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

This is what they signed up for when they drafted Young.

If he succeeds he'll be Brees-lite, shredding you laterally until you overcompensate and he can hit a deep pass. It's a dink and dunk offence that has to be absolutely perfect in it's execution though - but that's his (physical) skill set. 

That’s a lot of draft capital if that is your plan.  

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5 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

This is what they signed up for when they drafted Young.

If he succeeds he'll be Brees-lite, shredding you laterally until you overcompensate and he can hit a deep pass. It's a dink and dunk offence that has to be absolutely perfect in it's execution though - but that's his (physical) skill set. 

You are woefully underrating his skill set. If anything, his skill set was muted by the receivers today, and murdered by the coaching staff. This game was in many ways a testament as to why you need to give rookies at skill positions more work during the preseason. Chemistry isn't just something to say, it's a real thing. 

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14 minutes ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

A lot of us are tired of reading your conjecture. Having 100,000 post doesn’t mean you’re right about anything. The coaching staff looked like what many of us thought. And Young was disappointing. You can look promising as a rookie QB. Today, he did not. 

For as much time as Bryce had to throw I think he made too many mistakes.

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We don't have the WRs that can take the top off of a defense with Chark out, and to be totally honest I don't know how much of a difference he makes.

This team is already banged up with Chark, Thielen, and Sanders not at full speed.  We have 1 tight end who is actually competent in both phases of the run/pass game.

As for our D - we are going to get gashed by teams who can run the ball and lit up by teams who can throw it.  Atlanta is not a good team and we'll face much better down the line.

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    • Mr. Scot
      Why does Bryce get the blame?

      By Mr. Scot · Posted

      They're examples of denying reality. Here are some others: ,- Bryce is the worst QB in the NFL right now (no he isn't) - Bryce is the worst QB in NFL history (no he's not; that's stupid) - Well then Bryce is at least the the worst QB in the league over the last three years (nope, he's actually improved a lot since year one, which was a turbulent year anyway) - That's not true, he hasn't Improved one but since his rookie year (oh come on) 🙄 - Well, even if he did, we can't win with him (obviously we can) - Yeah but not unless everyone else is damn near perfect (think the game film from our wins this year would back that up?) - Even so, we won those games in spite of him (officially the stupidest argument available) And no, those are made up. You can find those quotes and other equally moronic statements in various threads around the board. I know some folks always need to characterize whatever they're against as the worst thing in existence. It's hyperbole, and it's hypersilly. Likewise, you've got some who are so absolutely emotional about it that even if you think Bryce isn't good enough (which I do) they'll still call you a stan if you don't agree to label him the lousiest passer in existence 🙄 It's just dumb, and it's not realistic. But on the flipside, here are some statements which are; - Bryce is indeed capable of both playing in, and winning, an NFL game. Not on a consistent level though, and consistency is huge. - He is also capable of completing mid-range and even some deep passes; hell, he threw a beauty this past Sunday  - Yes, he has improved over his rookie season and over last year. Arguing against that is disingenuous. - Believe it or not, other players are the roster do make mistakes in games also.  - And lastly, while I know it hurts some people's narrative and arguments, Bryce does indeed deserve credit for the winning games he's played in this season. ... Every single one of those statements is true. And since i acknowledge all that, I must be in favor of keeping him in place then Except I'm not 😕 ... Don't know of anyone who doesn't think he'll get the fifth year option. Not ready to guarantee anything beyond that, though. So bottom line: Yeah, Bryce is fully expected to be our quarterback through next year. If there were a logical, realistic path to acquire a more capable starter and transition Bryce to a backup I'd be elated, but that's a pipe dream. This where we're at  I don't **** it, you don't like it, others don't either. But here We are so let's make the best of it that we can.
    • carolinanimal
      Ekwonu doesn’t get dog walked under 2 minutes in the 4th, we drive, kick a FG and win

      By carolinanimal · Posted

      What does it matter how fast the wrs are with Bryce he is not hitting them anyway
    • frankw
      Ekwonu doesn’t get dog walked under 2 minutes in the 4th, we drive, kick a FG and win

      By frankw · Posted

      Let's be real. Signing Matt Kalil who was at the time inconsistent at best was always an extremely risky move and largely initiated by the fact he was related to one of our most prominent players Ryan Kalil. Memories get fuzzy the longer time passes I guess. Go watch some old Panthers games with Ted Ginn nearly losing us games. Then watch Cam Newton keep going back to him again and again and again. Then read all the Xavier Legette criticism while making excuses for Bryce being swept by rookie 2nd round pick Tyler Shough. Throwing TMac under the bus is just further proof how deranged the Bryce Young defense force has become. Bryce Young can barely compete in this gutter iteration of the NFC South. Let's see him take this WR core to the playoffs in an NFC South with Drew Brees and Matt Ryan
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