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1 minute ago, pantherj said:

I think this game is like the difference between us winning 3 games or 4. Something like that. All this season really has to offer is a few wins against bad teams. We have no 1st round pick, so I can't go into draft mode. It's all in on win this game or 0-17 is still in play. One of our few little pitiful rewards is possibly beating the poop Vikings. We got here through mismanagement, and we're not getting out this season. Just enjoy whatever you can and hope for the best.

This is what I do every week 🙂

I just don't see us stopping their offense and the only other relief on the schedule is the Bears itself. Which is no consolation prize considering we are handing them our pick in the draft so they win that week either way. 

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Handing the Bears a top 5 pick would really sting.

Why? That’s such a silly mindset. The trade wasn’t about 2023-2024… it’s about 2024+ … a top 5 bears pick is a top 5 pick in the 2nd round for us.

if your argument is that “we could have had a top 5 pick next year without the trade” … sure but no franchise quarterback. 
 

that trade was about the future not a single season. Decisions made in short term bubbles was what doomed us under Rhule. 
 

if bears getting a top 5 pick stings… then you are looking at this all wrong. 
 

my personal take is that we won’t be in the top 5, but we will give up a top 10. However, I think we have a strong close out to the season and carry the momentum into next year. Barring injuries.

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1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

Why? That’s such a silly mindset. The trade wasn’t about 2023-2024… it’s about 2024+ … a top 5 bears pick is a top 5 pick in the 2nd round for us.

if your argument is that “we could have had a top 5 pick next year without the trade” … sure but no franchise quarterback. 
 

that trade was about the future not a single season. Decisions made in short term bubbles was what doomed us under Rhule. 
 

if bears getting a top 5 pick stings… then you are looking at this all wrong. 
 

my personal take is that we won’t be in the top 5, but we will give up a top 10. However, I think we have a strong close out to the season and carry the momentum into next year. Barring injuries.

I was onboard with the trade because I mistakenly thought we weren't going to be in a position to get a top 5 pick (or higher). After seeing how we played under Wilks I honestly thought we wouldn't be picking top 10 so if there's an opportunity to shoot your shot then shoot. But if we them turn around and actually earn a pick from true sucking that could land us a franchise QB prospect without a huge trade up? Ouch.

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I was onboard with the trade because I mistakenly thought we weren't going to be in a position to get a top 5 pick (or higher). After seeing how we played under Wilks I honestly thought we wouldn't be picking top 10 so if there's an opportunity to shoot your shot then shoot. But if we them turn around and actually earn a pick from true sucking that could land us a franchise QB prospect without a huge trade up? Ouch.

We don’t know what the inverse of the situation would have been. We could have signed Derek Carr, Jimmy G, or minshew and never made the trade. Then ended up finishing around 7-10 - 11-6 …. Then picking in the middle of the first next year. 
 

then how are we feeling? Delaying the inevitable at that point.

we can create as many universes as we want … but stressing about what pick the bears get completely dismisses the purpose of the deal. 

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37 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

We don’t know what the inverse of the situation would have been. We could have signed Derek Carr, Jimmy G, or minshew and never made the trade. Then ended up finishing around 7-10 - 11-6 …. Then picking in the middle of the first next year. 
 

then how are we feeling? Delaying the inevitable at that point.

we can create as many universes as we want … but stressing about what pick the bears get completely dismisses the purpose of the deal. 

Definitely not stressing about it. Just saying that yeah, it would suck and it would demolish my logic for backing the move. 

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