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Wundrbread33 Grand Master

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42 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

"You go get the guy that you want, you know," general manager Scott Fitterer said at the combine about potentially trading up for a quarterback. "If you have a conviction on a guy, you go get him. It's pretty simple that way. If you don't know and you're going to give all these resources to go up and get it, you're hurting your team in the long run.

"You better be right. You better have conviction if you do move up. When you do that, you're all in."

 

Then after saying this, they acted like they didn’t have conviction until a couple days before the draft. 
 

Confusing. 

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6 hours ago, Beast_3000 said:

And not drafting Puka Nucua the Rams rookie breakout. We need some scouting department changes too. 

This this this all day. The scouting staff needs to wear a LOT of what is going wrong with this team. Fitt gets the blame for making the pick, but this scouting staff are the ones with boots on the ground evaluating the talent and making the recommendations.

How can people who do this for a living be so consistently wrong when guys who explode are taken later in the draft?

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https://fansided.com/posts/5-teams-who-are-already-regretting-their-2023-nfl-draft-picks-01hc1acjmbvy

It's so, so early to evaluate quarterbacks, but there's no denying that the Panthers, who traded their 2024 first-round pick to trade up to take Bryce Young, would look so much better right now if Anthony Richardson or C.J. Stroud were under center. In fact, the Panthers might look better if they just kept the ninth-overall pick, kept D.J. Moore, and chose to give Andy Dalton the starting job.

Young has looked skittish and inaccurate to start his career. He's too conservative, and the big plays we saw him make at Alabama aren't happening in the NFL. Part of that is the talent around him. His top receiver is a past-his-prime Adam Thielen and a not-ready-yet Jonathan Mingo. Still, Young hasn't shown much of anything in his first three starts.

On top of that, he's already missed a game due to injury. The Panthers are currently winless, and it doesn't look like they are going to have any easy games on the schedule. Some thought they could steal some wins from the NFC South, but their rivals have been at least competitive. So, the Panthers might be using two number-one overall picks just to take Young, who hasn't shown he's the answer yet.

 
 
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It’s always been said that you build through the draft. You use free agency to fill some holes, and if you are lucky you can get a star to fill a position and solidify it. I’ve been trying to remember though just how many building blocks Fitterer has traded away. Now some can’t be determined yet because it is still too early to judge, but what I have so far looks pretty alarming.

 

Sam Darnold - Traded a 2021 6th rounder, 2022 2nd and 4th rounder

Baker Mayfield - 2024 5th rounder

Matt Corral - Swapped 2022 3rd’s & traded a 2023 3rd

Bryce Young - 2023 1st & 2nd, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd & DJ Moore

(All of those picks were just to find a QB)

CJ Henderson - 2022 3rd, Dan Arnold & we received a 5th

Stephon Gilmore - 2023 6th

DJ Johnson - Swapped  2023 3rd’s, Traded 2023 4th 

 

To find a QB we traded 2 1st’s, 3 2nd’s, 3rd, 4th & 5th (8 total draft picks) & DJ Moore

 

Can anyone think of anymore picks we gave up?

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6 hours ago, Towelboy said:

Sitting on the train trying to recall Fitts mistakes. What have I missed?

Traded a 5th and Dan Arnold for CJ Henderson
Traded Denzel Perryman and a 7th before the season started for a 6th rounder (ended up having a career year with the Raiders)
Drafted Jaycee Horn over Pat Surtain and Micah Parsons
Drafted a long snapper in the 5th then cut him after sitting a year on IR
Traded far too much to get Sam Darnold then immediately signed an extension before he took a snap
Let Haasan Reddick walk
Resigned Ian Thomas
Resigned Donte Jackson
Traded up for Matt Corral over Sam Howell
Drafted three players with no college production (Barno, Smith, Barnes)
Traded for Baker Mayfield then let him go (now playing well in Tampa)
Overpaid Robbie Anderson
Traded CMC
Let D’Onta Foreman walk, cut Baker Mayfield
Overpaid for Adam Thielen and Miles Sanders
Didn’t trade Burns for two 1st and a 2nd
Traded our best WR, two 1st rounders and two 2nd rounders to move up and take what looks like the wrong QB
Passed on Dell and took Mingo
Traded up for an older edge rusher with limited college production (DJ Johnson)
 

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8 minutes ago, Swirly said:

It’s always been said that you build through the draft. You use free agency to fill some holes, and if you are lucky you can get a star to fill a position and solidify it. I’ve been trying to remember though just how many building blocks Fitterer has traded away. Now some can’t be determined yet because it is still too early to judge, but what I have so far looks pretty alarming.

 

Sam Darnold - Traded a 2021 6th rounder, 2022 2nd and 4th rounder

Baker Mayfield - 2024 5th rounder

Matt Corral - Swapped 2022 3rd’s & traded a 2023 3rd

Bryce Young - 2023 1st & 2nd, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd & DJ Moore

(All of those picks were just to find a QB)

CJ Henderson - 2022 3rd, Dan Arnold & we received a 5th

Stephon Gilmore - 2023 6th

DJ Johnson - Swapped  2023 3rd’s, Traded 2023 4th 

 

To find a QB we traded 2 1st’s, 3 2nd’s, 3rd, 4th & 5th (8 total draft picks) & DJ Moore

 

Can anyone think of anymore picks we gave up?

My bad didn't see the duplicate one someone else already posted.

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