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What do you feel like Bryce Young's ceiling is, as of now?

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Waldo Grand Master

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we have to wait 2 whole years......huh

We will know all we need to know by the end of the year. There is stuff Bryce needs to work on but the product on the field doesn't warent skipping a true QB compitition. It's obvious he isn't close to being able to outperform Dalton.

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Too early to say. I'll make that determination at the conclusion of the season. This one is lost. He needs to get out there and just play football we have nothing else to play for except development. There's no need to be timid or be scared of throwing downfield this has to change whether it's more the coaches or him or vice versa it doesn't matter. Take your shots even if you turn the ball over. I don't care if he throws some interceptions I can accept that a hell of a lot more than I can the fumbles.

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We need a WR1, the FO miscalculated with the recent trades, but they are correct in realizing we need a WR1. Hurts and Tua are different QBs with a top WR, even Burrow hit a new level with Chase. Josh Allen hit new levels each year they added talent for him, culminating with Diggs. It's as simple as that. I think Bryce can get to the same level as those guys with the right WR1, but we have to go get one and at this point that probably means trading Burns. I think most of us would be happy with a high powered offense in exchange for a weaker D in the meantime.

 

Jeudy is not the answer. Hollywood Brown is the most likely to be a "bridge" WR1 until we land a true elite guy if we're looking solely at guys available to trade for in season. I'm uncertain about Tee, because he would command top money and I don't think he tops Bryce out like AJ Brown, Tyreek Hill, or Stefon Diggs would. Reich needs to be removed from play calling. Move Burns for Brown and a 1st or try and trade for Brown now without Burns and move Burns at the deadline for (hopefully) 2 1sts again to get back into this WR draft this year.

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2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

we have to wait 2 whole years......huh

Young will get 2 years. I’m pretty confident in that. Fitt, Reich, or both could be fired during that period but it will probably be letting Evero or Brown be interim HC. 2025 will be the earliest we replace Young if we aren’t sold on him by then IMO. We should have a first again then as well if needed. 

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2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

we have to wait 2 whole years......huh

The post is referencing Drew Brees as a comparison. As previously stated, it took three years for Brees to resemble a competent starting QB - so his fourth whole year in the NFL. So yeah….huh.

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