Mecole Hardman - Potential Trade Target?

[UNCrules2187]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38623489/sources-jets-looking-options-little-used-mecole-hardman

Can't hurt IMO. Feel like it'll be one of those "trades" we've seen lately where a team gets Hardman and a 7th round pick in exchange for a 6th round pick. Wouldn't be surprised to see Fitt bring him in, might bring some speed to the WR corps.

[travisura]

We're not going to be buyers at the deadline. Reports are the Fitt rightfully has his hands tied when it comes to sending away future assets.

[CamWhoaaCam]

Lol another non factor WR.

 

Guys we need a true #1 WR. Stop with these #2 and #3 WRs. We already have that on the roster.

[Untouchable]

13 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Lol another non factor WR.

 

Guys we need a true #1 WR. Stop with these #2 and #3 WRs. We already have that on the roster.

We need a #2 as well so if you can find a really good deal for one I'm good with pouncing.  That being said, Hardman is on an expiring contract so pass, he'll be there in the offseason if you really like him.

[Smithers]

Maybe a conditional swap of 7th rounders.  That’s all I’d do

[Lame Duck]

Fitts and Reich are getting fired next Monday.

This is the way.

Edited October 10, 2023 by Lame Duck

[tukafan21]

45 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Lol another non factor WR.

 

Guys we need a true #1 WR. Stop with these #2 and #3 WRs. We already have that on the roster.

There aren’t any #1’s out there available outside of Higgins, who might not even be available until the offseason

I brought this up in a thread a week or two ago since they weren’t using him at all, his speed along would be valuable as we don’t have anyone like that right now.

I’d trade TMJ for him straight up

[Ivan The Awesome]

1 hour ago, UNCrules2187 said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38623489/sources-jets-looking-options-little-used-mecole-hardman

Can't hurt IMO. Feel like it'll be one of those "trades" we've seen lately where a team gets Hardman and a 7th round pick in exchange for a 6th round pick. Wouldn't be surprised to see Fitt bring him in, might bring some speed to the WR corps.

"Can't hurt IMO.."

 

Yes. Yes it can. It has hurt for the past decade. Fitt will over pay for that practice squad caliber player.

[UNCrules2187]

6 minutes ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

"Can't hurt IMO.."

 

Yes. Yes it can. It has hurt for the past decade. Fitt will over pay for that practice squad caliber player.

I don't think Fitt has overpaid when it comes to vet acquisitions. Draft trades? 100%. But his vet moves aren't that bad:

Stephon Gilmore: sent a 6th round pick that was 2 years out, even though we didn't resign him didn't really send anything of value for him.

CJ Henderson: a 3rd and Dan Arnold for a guy who was one-year removed from being a top 10 pick and a 5th; a gamble that didn't work but not horrendous. Looking at our prior 3rd round draft picks over the past 5 years, Henderson arguably better than all of them anyway

Baker Mayfield: 2024 5th round pick which was recouped when we sent out Dennis Daley to the Titans for a 2024 5th

Laviska Shenault: 2023 7th round pick, 2024 6th round pick; I actually think Shenault is worth more than that and should be used more creatively. We basically got these picks back in the Robbie Chosen trade. 

Edited October 10, 2023 by UNCrules2187

[Ivan The Awesome]

3 minutes ago, UNCrules2187 said:

I don't think Fitt has overpaid when it comes to vet acquisitions. Draft trades? 100%. But his vet moves aren't that bad:

Stephon Gilmore: sent a 6th round pick that was 2 years out, even though we didn't resign him didn't really send anything of value for him.

CJ Henderson: a 3rd and Dan Arnold for a guy who was one-year removed from being a top 10 pick and a 5th; a gamble that didn't work but not horrendous. Looking at our prior 3rd round draft picks over the past 5 years, Henderson arguably better than all of them anyway

Baker Mayfield: 2024 5th round pick which was recouped when we sent out Dennis Daley to the Titans for a 2024 5th

Laviska Shenault: 2023 7th round pick, 2024 6th round pick; I actually think Shenault is worth more than that and should be used more creatively. We basically got these picks back in the Robbie Chosen trade. 

What about Darnold? Why skip that little dousey? Henderson hasn't panned out that well so again, over paid.

[UNCrules2187]

3 minutes ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

What about Darnold? Why skip that little dousey? Henderson hasn't panned out that well so again, over paid.

Ah yes, definitely forgot Darnold, that was a very bad one. I guess I mean more of these "margin" FA moves (a CB here, a WR there), I don't think they're that bad. Henderson has been a JAG but like I said it's not like we know who to draft in the 3rd round anyway. 

I don't think Fitt is a good GM but I also don't think he's going to trade a 3rd round pick to the Jets for Mecole Hardman. It'll either be a swap of underpeforming players (TMJ for Hardman) or a 7th round type deal. Marginal, re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic type move.

Edited October 10, 2023 by UNCrules2187

[top dawg]

59 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Lol another non factor WR.

 

Guys we need a true #1 WR. Stop with these #2 and #3 WRs. We already have that on the roster.

I guess you think that WR1s just fall off of trees. We need to improve. If we can get a legit receiver on a deal--basically a value acquisition, then I'm in. That being said, I don't think Hardman moves the needle.

[Jay Roosevelt]

What's his contract like? 

[Evil Hurney]

7 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

What's his contract like? 

Only signed for this season. Very cheap for the acquiring team, < $1M after proration.