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Bryce is going to be a good QB btw...


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On 10/15/2023 at 9:47 PM, 45catfan said:

Count the white jerseys at 5 seconds.  That's right, nobody deep. Why? The word is out and why you can count all 7 non-DL in that frame.  I think it's single high and he's not deep at all.

I see 5 white jerseys in coverage, 2 20 yards down field, a spy, and 3 dlineman rushing. Not sure where you're getting 7 non dlineman from

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22 hours ago, carolinanimal said:

Because people actually saw cams potential In his first few games. He lit the fan base up and was super charismatic. Bryce young not so much..😑

people not seeing Bryce’s potential start to manifest has gotten to the point where it’s a dogwhistle for whether or not that person knows what they’re looking at when watching QB play

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noticed the usual pff thread has suspiciously not been posted 

Best

1. WR Adam Thielen: 82.7
2. RT Taylor Moton: 65.0
3. TE Tommy Tremble: 64.4
4. RB Raheem Blackshear: 64.3
5. QB Bryce Young: 62.6

1. CB Troy Hill: 91.1
2. OLB Amaré Barno: 74.2
3. OLB Brian Burns: 71.7
4. DT DeShawn Williams: 69.9
5. OLB Justin Houston: 69.3

Worst

22. WR Ihmir Smith-Marsette: 55.2
23. TE Stephen Sullivan: 52.5
24. TE Hayden Hurst: 51.3
25. WR Terrace Marshall Jr.: 43.1
26. RG Calvin Throckmorton: 37.0

16. DE LaBryan Ray: 55.0
17. CB CJ Henderson: 32.6
18. S Jeremy Chinn: 30.9
19. S Matthias Farley: 29.5
20. LB Kamu Grugier-Hill: 29.2

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1 minute ago, mav1234 said:

Pffs grades for Burns always surprise me, and make me wonder how bias against him I've become lately for whatever reason - I like him as a player but have been disappointed yet he's hitting some good pff numbers consistently.

Love seeing Bryce in our top 5.

Miami is a modern NFL offense and Tua is the perfect QB to run it. Tua gets the ball out really fast on early passing downs and they run well inside on those same downs. 

When you’re not facing a lot of obvious passing situations your numbers from your edge players are going to be diminished. 
 
they shouldn’t trade Burns unless they can get two 1’s

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The reason people don't post PFF grade threads anymore is because it's immediately filled with complaints. There's no ulterior motives.

Bryce had a much better game not surprised to see him with a higher PFF grade for the first time. Much of that is due to the first quarter though and he had many short passes per usual. Hopefully he and Thomas Brown will be working on getting some downfield plays next game.

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