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14 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't understand the folks upset we didn't make any moves today.

A big part of our issues since Tepper bought the team has been a constant series of knee jerk win now type moves that have just dug us into a big hole. And now folks are upset we didn't make more of them?

I wouldn't have minded trading some guys away today, but it was a buyer's market. The sellers were getting fleeced.

Honestly, sometimes doing nothing is the best bad option you have.

Short memory because all I remember is people whining before he got here that we never made splash moves and for the first year of his tenure they were drooling at all the moves he made. Hence the laser eyes. 

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1 minute ago, travisura said:

Only problem is that someone has to be willing to offer a 1st. With Sweat going for a 2nd, I highly doubt a 1st for Burns was ever being floated.
And they're not going to get nothing for him next year, if they don’t reach a deal they’re going to tag him. 

Burns wasn’t the only one on the block.

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8 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

That is exactly where I think it is headed which is why I think we probably should have taken what we could get.  Of course fitterers ego and maybe teps was too big to let that happen as doing so wold be admitting their fug up last year.  We will get peanuts if anything for the guy cause he ain't showing poo this year and the rest of the team and our dismal record doesn't make him look any damn better.

I think Sweat and Young being available tanked the potential market for Burns. I wouldn't trade a 1st and more for Burns if I could get Sweat for a 2nd or Young for a 3rd. Especially knowing he's wanting nearly $30M per.

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think Sweat and Young being available tanked the potential market for Burns. I wouldn't trade a 1st and more for Burns if I could get Sweat for a 2nd or Young for a 3rd. Especially knowing he's wanting nearly $30M per.

That's it right there. 2 ends available for far less in picks and dollars than Burns. Smart teams weren't giving up what the Rams offered last year for a edge rusher with only 9 games remaining under contract. Was never going to happen. 

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1 hour ago, travisura said:

He’s gonna get tagged this offseason if they don’t reach a deal. If he walks for nothing it’ll be year after next. 

I dont think anyone will give 2 firsts for him anymore and I think there will be drama from franchising him.  There almost was during training camp this year just because he hadnt been given an extension.   If we franchise him, we wont get the 2 firsts to trade him and he definitely wont be happy here.  Fitterer just keeps burying himself further and further in a lose lose situation instead of just admitting his mistake.

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Outside of trading guys we frankly don’t even play use like a TMJ or maybe Chinn for meh picks….there wasn’t much we could do.  Fitt shouldn’t be allowed to send any picks anywhere anymore 

The trading Burns window came and went.  Front office would just look dumb to deal him for a fraction of what was offered.  And that’s where they are.   Look foolish trading him. Won’t look good paying him.  I still have my nickel on him walking away for nothing a la Peppers in the end. History repeating. 

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We just need to stay patient for a playmaker in 2024.  We knew we didn't have one or the ammo to get one.

Come this time next year, if we're looking at the same problem, then there's clear organizational issues.  

The Burns issue lingering is annoying but whatever at this point with him.

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I don't know...

I'd much rather have Chase and Montez than Brian Burns. Would have been crazy but maybe they could have been in on those 2 and then traded Burns in the offseason. They would have, at the very least, been able to get a 2nd and 3rd for Burns in the offseason. And likely could have signed both Chase and Montez for just a little more than what they're about to pay Burns. 

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1 hour ago, scratched said:

I think the fact that Young and Sweat went for what they did, helped keep us from over paying Burns. He is much closer to those guys than a Bosa, or a TJ Watt. 

 Nick Bosa only has 3 more career sacks than Burns. Burns also has more combined and assisted tackles. We’re going to have to pay him.

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1 hour ago, Biscuit said:

 Nick Bosa only has 3 more career sacks than Burns. Burns also has more combined and assisted tackles. We’re going to have to pay him.

He's also played in less games but has way more pressures. It's good that Burns is available, but he's markedly less effective than Bosa. We were always going to have to pay him, but Bosa money? 

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