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The worst draft pick in NFL history….

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toldozer Grand Master

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38 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

About the same probably to be honest.

Yeah pretty much yet Cam could stay on the field on 4th and 1. How anyone looked at stroud and young and wanted young I have no idea. You can't know anything about football and come to that conclusion.

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2 minutes ago, toldozer said:

Yeah pretty much yet Cam could stay on the field on 4th and 1. How anyone looked at stroud and young and wanted young I have no idea. You can't know anything about football and come to that conclusion.

I wanted Richardson but I had them Richardson, Stroud, Young. But I said at the time that I could be swayed hard by their interviews. I just had extremely serious concerns about Bryce's physical tools.

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Howell is literally on pace to throw for damn near 5000 yards.

I remember you and I both thought Howell was the best QB in that draft.  He clearly was and everyone here called me a homer.  SMH 

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2 minutes ago, toldozer said:

Yeah pretty much yet Cam could stay on the field on 4th and 1. How anyone looked at stroud and young and wanted young I have no idea. You can't know anything about football and come to that conclusion.

It seemed obvious to me. But I'm an idiot who knows nothing about football, so I thought my eyes must be deceiving me. The "experts" said it was close, or it's Bryce. But to me, I felt like I was in an Asch group conformity experiment. It just never even seemed close to me. Stroud's tape was so transparently, obviously and overwhelmingly better than Young's, that I just don't see how anyone on a professional level thought he was the better choice. 

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3 minutes ago, Captroop said:

It seemed obvious to me. But I'm an idiot who knows nothing about football, so I thought my eyes must be deceiving me. The "experts" said it was close, or it's Bryce. But to me, I felt like I was in an Asch group conformity experiment. It just never even seemed close to me. Stroud's tape was so transparently, obviously and overwhelmingly better than Young's, that I just don't see how anyone on a professional level thought he was the better choice. 

“Ohio State QB’s are always busts”

“Alabama QB’s on fire lately”

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2 hours ago, joemac said:

His arm today was not the problem. The 2 abhorrent picks were on screens to our jabronie RBs. Not saying today wasn’t fuging demoralizing but nothing about his arm is the problem 

Ummm... He overthrew a screen pass by about 10 yds As he tried to float it there moving away from where he was throwing to... If you don't consider his arm a problem there, yikes...

I just don't understand how it's not obvious to everyone that our coaching staff and every team we have played seems to realize that Bryce has zero arm strength and is unable to throw it deep. How our retarded organization didn't realize this pre-draft is just mind-boggling - We need to clean house of every single person in our front office That had any input into who we draft on offense (outside of maybe McCown who wanted CJ)

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Ummm... He overthrew a screen pass by about 10 yds As he tried to float it there moving away from where he was throwing to... If you don't consider his arm a problem there, yikes...

I just don't understand how it's not obvious to everyone that our coaching staff and every team we have played seems to realize that Bryce has zero arm strength and is unable to throw it deep. How our retarded organization didn't realize this pre-draft is just mind-boggling - We need to clean house of every single person in our front office That had any input into who we draft on offense (outside of maybe McCown who wanted CJ)

Bring me back Hurney and Rivera i dont even give a fug. Who in their right mind thinks the Teppers will hire anyone better. 2025 Hurney will draft a fire quarterback. Ron will destroy them but we will have several good years  

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2 hours ago, Captroop said:

It seemed obvious to me. But I'm an idiot who knows nothing about football, so I thought my eyes must be deceiving me. The "experts" said it was close, or it's Bryce. But to me, I felt like I was in an Asch group conformity experiment. It just never even seemed close to me. Stroud's tape was so transparently, obviously and overwhelmingly better than Young's, that I just don't see how anyone on a professional level thought he was the better choice. 

And all this contributed to why he did not participate in the combine. They knew this kid had limitations and didnt want him performing next to the other QBs for exposure.  It was definitely just a business decision to make sure he went no.1 

Cant be mad at his representation for that, but you can be mad at the organization for falling for the trap. 

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