Bryce is gonna go down as the second biggest QB bust in the 21st century

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

36 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

Calling someone a bust when they are still a rookie has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. But then again this is the Huddle.

bryce has shown a grand total of absolutely nothing. he's cooked like thanksgiving dinner. his physical limitations (literally impossible for him to overcome) are extremely evident. he looks like a poor mans teddy bridgewater

its fuging over.

Edited November 20, 2023 by Sean Payton's Vicodin

[Ghostofdelhomme]

18 minutes ago, Ghostofdelhomme said:

There have been some horrific good/great QB rookie seasons- Terry Bradshaw 6 TD, 24 INT, Elway 7/14, Aikman, the only true overall #1 Qb busts were Tim Couch and Jamarcus.
unless Bryce is Professor Xavier with his mind and can implant thoughts into DB’s, S2/Wonderlic means nothing with a noodle arm and dilated pupils 

And David Carr. 3 out of 20 #1 busts. So we could have an Alex Smith/Steve Bartkowski/Jeff George where they aren’t any good until they’re on their second team.

[Ghostofdelhomme]

7 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

bryce has shown a grand total of absolutely nothing. he's cooked like thanksgiving dinner. his physical limitations (literally impossible for him to overcome) are extremely evident. he looks like a poor mans teddy bridgewater

its fuging over.

Bryce krispies- completely roasted

[emhoward]

2 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

He's had his shot and he's poo the bed like a dog that ate a whole box of exlax. There's no coach in the NFL that would take BY the way he's playing vs Purdy right now. Would not happen. 

The entire nature of this debate with Bryce is to determine to what degree would he be playing the way he is right now if Christian Mccaffery was his running back - Aiyuk, Samuel, and Kittle were his weapons, Trent Williams was his blind side protector, and Kyle Shanahan was his coach. The point I'm making is Trey Lance poo'd the bed with all of that (minus Mccaffery) -- which is why it's reasonable to look at him as the bigger bust. I wasn't arguing Bryce being good, we were talking about why Lance should or should not be considered a bigger bust. 

[Panthercougar68]

1 hour ago, Johnstonny said:

but 49ers were able to overcome that with coaching and ownership....neither do we have...

Doesn’t mean he’s not a bigger bust.

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 hour ago, emhoward said:

The entire nature of this debate with Bryce is to determine to what degree would he be playing the way he is right now if Christian Mccaffery was his running back - Aiyuk, Samuel, and Kittle were his weapons, Trent Williams was his blind side protector, and Kyle Shanahan was his coach. The point I'm making is Trey Lance poo'd the bed with all of that (minus Mccaffery) -- which is why it's reasonable to look at him as the bigger bust. I wasn't arguing Bryce being good, we were talking about why Lance should or should not be considered a bigger bust. 

Lance also spent a majority of his career hurt. By the time he got reasonably healthy, he had already been passed by. It happens. SF got lucky with Purdy, but he fits what they do really well and smart coaches don't bench the hot hand just because he was drafted last vs 3rd.

If we had a QB of Jimmy Gs caliber, and it's debatable even with Dalton, and Frank wasn't such a stubborn ass, Bryce would be on the bench. The only game we have seen from Dalton he performed better than Bryce even with Zavala giving up 14 pressures and in piss poor weather. 

The only reason BY is playing is he was the 1st overall pick and with CJ lighting up Houston, there's no way he can be benched while the number 2 player in the draft is winning OROY hands down and is in consideration for MVP. That would just make things worse, if that's even possible. If BY had been a 2nd or 3rd round pick, he would be on the bench, where he should be. His draft spot is the only reason he's starting. 

Lance was never expected to be the savior of the franchise or be the most cerebral QB since Peyton Manning. He wasn't the next god of football. He was always a risk. He wasnt ever going to be the 1st or 2nd QB taken even in his own draft. Bryce was always high floor, low ceiling and was passed by the others during preseason. He was supposed to be the one QB that couldn't fail.

You trade what we did, put the franchise all in on the biggest physical gamble at the position in modern NFL history, and get this level of play. Yeah it's safe to say he's blowing Lance out of the water in terms of busting. 

[jopie87]

Draft a QB next year, and the year after, and the year after. Don't stop until one of the lotto tickets hits. Bryce will never be the man, move on fast and try again.

[TheSpecialJuan]

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[emhoward]

10 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Lance also spent a majority of his career hurt. By the time he got reasonably healthy, he had already been passed by. It happens. SF got lucky with Purdy, but he fits what they do really well and smart coaches don't bench the hot hand just because he was drafted last vs 3rd.

If we had a QB of Jimmy Gs caliber, and it's debatable even with Dalton, and Frank wasn't such a stubborn ass, Bryce would be on the bench. The only game we have seen from Dalton he performed better than Bryce even with Zavala giving up 14 pressures and in piss poor weather. 

The only reason BY is playing is he was the 1st overall pick and with CJ lighting up Houston, there's no way he can be benched while the number 2 player in the draft is winning OROY hands down and is in consideration for MVP. That would just make things worse, if that's even possible. If BY had been a 2nd or 3rd round pick, he would be on the bench, where he should be. His draft spot is the only reason he's starting. 

Lance was never expected to be the savior of the franchise or be the most cerebral QB since Peyton Manning. He wasn't the next god of football. He was always a risk. He wasnt ever going to be the 1st or 2nd QB taken even in his own draft. Bryce was always high floor, low ceiling and was passed by the others during preseason. He was supposed to be the one QB that couldn't fail.

You trade what we did, put the franchise all in on the biggest physical gamble at the position in modern NFL history, and get this level of play. Yeah it's safe to say he's blowing Lance out of the water in terms of busting. 

It seems to me that you are painting Trey Lance in the best possible light, and painting Bryce in the worst. Saying he was "passed by" is awfully kind of you. One could also say, that he lost his job to not only Brock Purdy, but to Purdy's backup, Sam Darnold, a guy we kicked out of town not to long ago, spending most of the off season as the 3rd string QB, to the degree that they traded him for a 4th round pick. You can say a lot about Bryce being a bust, but I'd guarantee you a team would trade more than a 4th for him right now.

You trade what the 49ers did, you surround him with the best talent in the NFL, the best coaching in the NFL, you set him up to succeed expecting him to be the guy that finally gets you over the hump, and you get his level of play. It's safe to say he's blowing Bryce out of the water in terms of busting. 

Trey busted with gold around him, Bryce is busting with trash.

 

[Xtreme]

I still have my fingers-crossed that it's just coaching. But we still have to take a QB in next year's draft, considering how deep the 2024 QB class is. Spencer Rattler looking like a possibility. Should be there in the 3rd maybe even 4th. 

[GoobyPls]

If that’s your conclusion after Sundays  game you don’t understand football 

[DaveThePanther2008]

He has had his moments so I wouldn't put him in the top 10 just yet.  So many of you want to put the blame on Young but he has little to no help.  The players he has round him are terrible outside of Theilan.

[OldhamA]

1 hour ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

He has had his moments so I wouldn't put him in the top 10 just yet.  So many of you want to put the blame on Young but he has little to no help.  The players he has round him are terrible outside of Theilan.

Could you list 10 of those moments - 1 for each game we've played this season.

Thanks in advance.

[Gapanthersfan]

The brain trust played Russian roulette with a bullet in every chamber. They played us, again. ALL HYPE.

Not even once in 10 games have I seen a single play that made me say “not a lot of NFL qb’s making that happen.” His baseline is so stinking low that slightly above average plays wow us. 
 

Remember the Cam to Olsen rocket to beat Seattle in Seattle? X clown? The back shoulder bomb to Smitty in the SB? He wouldn’t have a prayer. 

You trade up to #1, you better pick someone who has the other coach screaming GD. Not our own. 

Rhule, Brady, Sam, Mayfield, Miles and countless others. ALL HYPE. this continues to be par for the course.