Jones on the firing

[Mr. Scot]

From the same article as the coach candidate discussion...

Sources who spoke to CBS Sports said those are the crucial elements in the final month-plus of the season before Tepper launches earnestly into another head-coaching search where he will look to land a big fish.

"It's not sustainable that he could make it through the season," said one source of the hits Young has taken so far this year.

"The hits were taking a toll [on Tepper,]" another source said.

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Young has already been sacked 40 times this season, second-most of any quarterback in the league and far outpacing all rookie quarterbacks. He is on pace to be sacked 64 times this season. That'd be the fourth-most sacks taken by any quarterback in NFL history with David Carr's staggering 76 in 2002 leading the way.

Carolina's offensive line regressed this year to what could be deemed the worst in the league. There's a glaring lack of speed at wide receiver, and there's been a season-long plague for pass-catchers to create separation.

The offense isn't going to drastically change schematically, but offensive coordinator Thomas Brown is now charged with protecting Young, moving the pocket around and doing what works best for the former Heisman winner.

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Tepper fired Frank Reich on Monday after just 11 games, the quickest hook in the NFL for a first-year head coach in more than four decades. Sources said Tepper grew "increasingly more impatient and agitated" in recent weeks as he saw "no improvement in the offense week to week" and, as one person said, "a stubbornness to adapt" by Reich.

As previously reported here, one of the biggest concerns with Reich's all-star coaching staff was there were too many voices from too many different philosophies in Young's ear. The result was a lack of identity in a hodgepodge offense.

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After firing Reich and installing special teams coordinator Chris Tabor as the interim head coach, Tepper allowed Tabor to fire assistant head coach Duce Staley and quarterbacks coach Josh McCown, both of whom were viewed as "Reich guys." By the way, Tabor and offensive line coach James Campen were the only coaches who were hired by Matt Rhule, who survived under interim coach Steve Wilks and were retained by Reich.

Many sources were stunned by the move to fire McCown, but another added: "The staff was too big to begin with."

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Carolina attempted to simplify the playbook earlier in the year. When that wasn't the answer, the Panthers continued pulling from the Alabama archives to see what could work.  

[OldhamA]

So we're fuged then.

Tepper doesn't understand that Young is part of the problem, isn't going to fire Fitterer and is going to hire another yes man as HC.

Worst owner in the NFL.

[CPF4LIFE]

There is nothing to be excited about for this team till atleast 2025. 

[Mr. Scot]

Couple of items...

As previously reported here, one of the biggest concerns with Reich's all-star coaching staff was there were too many voices from too many different philosophies in Young's ear. The result was a lack of identity in a hodgepodge offense.

It was reportedly Tepper and Fitterer who urged Reich to hire outside his circle, emulating what has been done in New York (that now looks to have gone off the rails) by Brian Daboll.

But then now...

Tepper allowed Tabor to fire assistant head coach Duce Staley and quarterbacks coach Josh McCown, both of whom were viewed as "Reich guys." 

...which would tell me they don't think they were wrong.

[top dawg]

Good nuggets here. At least we know Tepper's mindset a little more. 

I think the sack thing and the failure of Reich to adapt were huge. No improvement. Too many cooks in the kitchen and trying to force a square peg into a round hole. 

We'll see if Brown, Campen & Tabor can't at least keep Bryce upright---protect him from being killed. Once we establish that, then we can go on from there to see if Bryce flashes or crashes. 

[Wolfcop]

14 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

So we're fuged then.

Tepper doesn't understand that Young is part of the problem, isn't going to fire Fitterer and is going to hire another yes man as HC.

Worst owner in the NFL.

Did you not just read that Young is on pace to be sacked the 4th most in NFL history? How do you expect any QB to be successful in that situation, with not WRs getting open to boot. I know it’s a hard concept for some of you, but wake up. 

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, top dawg said:

At least we know Tepper's mindset a little more. 

It doesn't really make me feel any better

[OldhamA]

7 minutes ago, Wolfcop said:

Did you not just read that Young is on pace to be sacked the 4th most in NFL history? How do you expect any QB to be successful in that situation, with not WRs getting open to boot. I know it’s a hard concept for some of you, but wake up. 

I've explained it multiple times how he brings a lot of it on himself - but you continue to ignore it. 

[Wolfcop]

11 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

I've explained it multiple times how he brings a lot of it on himself - but you continue to ignore it. 

He is a rookie, dude. You continue to ignore that many HOF QBs don’t start well. 

[Carl Spackler]

17 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

I've explained it multiple times how he brings a lot of it on himself - but you continue to ignore it. 

Getting blind-sided because the LT barely touched the DE is somehow only Bryce Young's fault, but if any other QB has that happen to him, it's the OL's fault. 

[Chaos]

Ickey is straight garbage this year with embarrassing effort on the left edge.  But let's keep Campen forever.

[ForJimmy]

34 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

I've explained it multiple times how he brings a lot of it on himself - but you continue to ignore it. 

He does bring on some. Have you see our OL’s PFF rating though? It’s insane. All rookies have to adapt to the speed of the NFL and take unnecessary sacks, but watching them play this year it’s painfully obvious the interior OL is a huge issue. I think Parsons got to him in under 2.5 seconds 9 different times while playing sick by just going right down the middle. 

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, Chaos said:

Ickey is straight garbage this year with embarrassing effort on the left edge.  But let's keep Campen forever.

And he is our 2nd highest rated OL playing tomorrow. That’s a scary thought…

[rayzor]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

"no improvement in the offense week to week" and, as one person said, "a stubbornness to adapt" by Reich.

a lot of potential reasons why reich was too stubborn to adapt, but none of that matters now.

brown now has license to adapt and i think he's more likely to just because he is younger and won't have someone hovering over his shoulder like reich likely was.

i'm hoping that brown (with caldwell's help) be able to adapt their playbook and playcalling to what can work with young. i've got hopes that they will be able to work with campen and find out what will work, because i'm sure campen has an idea or two that likely wasn't getting heard.