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Tepper's patience is why we are screwed for at least 3 more years.

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1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

Let's test this theory and see how patient he is with Bryce.  If Bryce not only loses out the rest of the season AND still looks like he's not even at NFL backup caliber, then we should be making a QB change in the offseason, correct?  It's been 40 years since a coach was fired this quickly, but Josh Rosen getting the boot was in recent years.  Let's see how patient Tepper is with Young.

Fact of the matter is he HAS to be patient with Young, we don't have our first round pick this draft so we can't move on from him as quickly/easily as we could if we did. We are tied to Bryce until at least next offseason when we get our first round pick back.

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4 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Fact of the matter is he HAS to be patient with Young, we don't have our first round pick this draft so we can't move on from him as quickly/easily as we could if we did. We are tied to Bryce until at least next offseason when we get our first round pick back.

Not so.  If Big Brass Balls really wanted to, we could get a QB at #33 or move up to the back end of the 1st round.  Will he? Nope, it's not that we can't, he just won't because it's becoming clearer by the day that the Teppers were the driving force behind Young to begin with.  His ego will not allow him to ditch Bryce this early.

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13 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Fact of the matter is he HAS to be patient with Young, we don't have our first round pick this draft so we can't move on from him as quickly/easily as we could if we did. We are tied to Bryce until at least next offseason when we get our first round pick back.

I don't say this lightly, but if Bryce finishes this season on his current pace (2,900 yards, 5.4 YPA, 13 TDs, 13 INTs) and we finish 1-16, I would throw in the towel and use pick 33 to take someone like Jayden Daniels if he's there. 

Folks talk about Tua looking like poo during his first two seasons but he still averaged 6.6 YPA and had a 27 to 15 TD/INT ratio.

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patience has nothing to do with it, he is quick to move from god awful hires, but it’s the god awful decisions that is the reason we will be set back and even more so, the fact Tepper still doesn’t understand he shouldn’t be making those decisions

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He looks at everything as an asset, and is more that willing to identity a sunk cost and move on.

So in theory he should can Fitt and be open to moving on from Bryce. But will he? That’s the question. 

If he is, the new GM and HC should be tied to nothing from the past and should be able to do whatever they see fit. Now that would give me hope again.

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13 minutes ago, UNCrules2187 said:

I don't say this lightly, but if Bryce finishes this season on his current pace (2,900 yards, 5.4 YPA, 13 TDs, 13 INTs) and we finish 1-16, I would throw in the towel and use pick 33 to take someone like Jayden Daniels if he's there. 

Folks talk about Tua looking like poo during his first two seasons but he still averaged 6.6 YPA and had a 27 to 15 TD/INT ratio.

We could even move up to the high 20's trading pick #33 and our 3rd round pick in 2025.  So yes, this could be done with relative ease.

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32 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Fact of the matter is he HAS to be patient with Young, we don't have our first round pick this draft so we can't move on from him as quickly/easily as we could if we did. We are tied to Bryce until at least next offseason when we get our first round pick back.

I agree 100%.  We have to see what kind of new coaches we get, see their offensive system in place, and then we can really evaluate if Bryce is the dude or the problem.

While there has been plenty of well deserved criticism leveled at Bryce, I can't say enough how frustrating it is that we've seen the same problem week in and week out with our OL and the blitz - YET NOTHING is being done.  As I've heard from multiple announcers this season - our offense has zero answers for the defense and that's why we're struggling.  It's not the only thing, but man it's true.

We need to be patient with our draft assets right now.  We've seen Fitterer blow so many picks in trades or poor choices.  We need a new GM and coaching staff to actually be on the same page.  Let's go back to getting as much value as we can for our picks, drafting smart, and beef up the OL and DL in FA.

Winning cures all, and I hate we'll all have to wait another season before the CHANCE at some more wins.  

As far as Young's leash?  I say give him another full season.  If we're not seeing improvements in year 2, then looking at the 2025 QB class would be worthwhile.  Heck, I bet our 1st in 2025 will be really high at this rate...

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50 minutes ago, rayzor said:

i've already checked out of next season, too. i just don't have a good feeling about anything up until 2025 and even then i'm kind of sketchy about it.

There’s no reason to have a good feeling.  We aren’t going to take a QB at 33 and we don’t have #1 overall so where would we get a QB to be optimistic about? We have so many legitimate holes that being competitive in 2024 relies on basically finding a diamond when we don’t even have a mine. If Fitterer is still around, then you can chalk up some more bad value trades, reaches and having more talent drain.

There is no quick fix and it feels like 2024 is 2011 except that Fitterer actually made the trade up to get Clausen in the 1st and we won’t get Cam.

It sucks so bad to be a fan right now knowing that Fitterer basically did make what would have been Hurney’s biggest mistake and he threw in not trading Burns/trading CMC and Moore for nothing. Coaching failures aside, our biggest mistake as a franchise was hiring Fitterer and not a legit GM.

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5 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

There is no quick fix and it feels like 2024 is 2011 except that Fitterer actually made the trade up to get Clausen in the 1st and we won’t get Cam.

man, that's exactly what its like.

i still feel that young can be ok...better than clausen anyways...and i don't know who would be cam coming up next year, but i think we definitely have put ourselves in a pile of poo that we won't be able to get ourselves out of for a while.

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