11 minutes of what true NFL ownership looks like…. BY A WOMAN!

[csx]

1 hour ago, Tbe said:

 

 

 

[csx]

4 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

She’s just as “meddling” as Tepper lol 

Her hires work, good for Lions, if we get the right coach we will be there too and stupid threads like these go away.

expect crickets from bigkat and cra 

[Jmac]

2 hours ago, TheBigKat said:

Tepper could learn a lot from Mrs. Ford-Hamp, she’s done more for that franchise in 3 years then her predecessors have in 50. 
 

Examples like her or Steve Bisciotti are what you’d look for in an owner

 

vision

resolve

 hiring the right people

 providing resources

 

then stepping aside and letting the people you hired do their job, not send in plays you’d like to see on a fortune cookie slip or having your wife watch the O-line drills or having the coaches meet with you on Mondays to review what happened

 

Listen to what she says and more importantly what she doesn’t say, buzz words like ‘analytics’

 

Yes Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell are amazing but the Lions and Ravens are where they are because of leaders like Mrs. Hamp and Steve Bisciotti

We have Nicole waiting in the wings.....we good.

 

:/S

[KillerKat]

That owners box must have an awesome kitchen.

[Wes21]

1 hour ago, Martin said:

I found it really funny that this was the example, someone doing exactly what Dave and Nicole does. The difference is that she got somewhat lucky with her hires. Otherwise exactly the same.

Not really.  Sheila is around the team and up to speed on everything Dan and Brad are doing.  But she doesn't make decisions or lead them down a particular road.  One benefit of having her around is it keeps Dan and Brad on track when the live bullets are flying.  They explain their draft plan ahead of time.  If they deviate, she doesn't pull rank.  She just mentions that they are doing something different than they said they would do.  Then they will explain why they are deviating from the original plan.

Another thing that happens alot is the coaches and staff give Sheila credit for things that had nothing to do with her.  So it makes it seem like she is "doing" more than she actually is.  BUT, one HUGE difference between Tepper and Sheila is that Sheila is willing to be patient and stay the course.  Frank Reich started 1-10 and got fired.  Dan Campbell started 0-10-1 and Sheila came out and publicly addressed the fans.  She told them she was as frustrated as anybody, but there is a plan in place and the team will reward their patience.  After winning only 3 games the first season, Dan started out 1-6 the following season.  Tepper fired Matt Rhule after a 1-4 start.  At 1-6 Sheila once again addressed the fans, preaching patience and allowing Dan and the staff time to show the fruits of their labor.  The team caught fire and finished the season 8-2.  The rest is history.

Edited January 24 by Wes21

[TheBigKat]

1 hour ago, csx said:

expect crickets from bigkat and cra 

No need @Wes21 eloquently summarized the difference 

[Panthercougar68]

28 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

Not really.  Sheila is around the team and up to speed on everything Dan and Brad are doing.  But she doesn't make decisions or lead them down a particular road.  One benefit of having her around is it keeps Dan and Brad on track when the live bullets are flying.  They explain their draft plan ahead of time.  If they deviate, she doesn't pull rank.  She just mentions that they are doing something different than they said they would do.  Then they will explain why they are deviating from the original plan.

Another thing that happens alot is the coaches and staff give Sheila credit for things that had nothing to do with her.  So it makes it seem like she is "doing" more than she actually is.  BUT, one HUGE difference between Tepper and Sheila is that Sheila is willing to be patient and stay the course.  Frank Reich started 1-10 and got fired.  Dan Campbell started 0-10-1 and Sheila came out and publicly addressed the fans.  She told them she was as frustrated as anybody, but there is a plan in place and the team will reward their patience.  After winning only 3 games the first season, Dan started out 1-6 the following season.  Tepper fired Matt Rhule after a 1-4 start.  At 1-6 Sheila once again addressed the fans, preaching patience and allowing Dan and the staff time to show the fruits of their labor.  The team caught fire and finished the season 8-2.  The rest is history.

 

Matt got fired after 1-4 start after two straight years of 5 wins. Reich was clearly more of a detriment than people want to think. Dave was patient with Ron and with Matt. Ford did the same thing with Patricia that anyone should have, cut bait early when it was needed.

Who ever is hired this year is gonna have a longer leash and probably 3 year minimum.

Edited January 24 by Panthercougar68

[Panthercougar68]

8 minutes ago, TheBigKat said:

No need @Wes21 eloquently summarized the difference 

Not really 

Edited January 24 by Panthercougar68

[pantherclaw]

She's pretty heavily involved in her team. Most owners are. Just most are seeking any spot light for it. 

[Martin]

35 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

Not really.  Sheila is around the team and up to speed on everything Dan and Brad are doing.  But she doesn't make decisions or lead them down a particular road.  One benefit of having her around is it keeps Dan and Brad on track when the live bullets are flying.  They explain their draft plan ahead of time.  If they deviate, she doesn't pull rank.  She just mentions that they are doing something different than they said they would do.  Then they will explain why they are deviating from the original plan.

Another thing that happens alot is the coaches and staff give Sheila credit for things that had nothing to do with her.  So it makes it seem like she is "doing" more than she actually is.  BUT, one HUGE difference between Tepper and Sheila is that Sheila is willing to be patient and stay the course.  Frank Reich started 1-10 and got fired.  Dan Campbell started 0-10-1 and Sheila came out and publicly addressed the fans.  She told them she was as frustrated as anybody, but there is a plan in place and the team will reward their patience.  After winning only 3 games the first season, Dan started out 1-6 the following season.  Tepper fired Matt Rhule after a 1-4 start.  At 1-6 Sheila once again addressed the fans, preaching patience and allowing Dan and the staff time to show the fruits of their labor.  The team caught fire and finished the season 8-2.  The rest is history.

Agree to disagree on this one.

[Ricky Prickles]

She seems like a damn good owner. Also helps that whoever is in charge of drafting knows what the hell they are doing. Look no further than St. Brown, La Porta, and Jamyr Gibbs to see evidence of good drafting. 

[Tbe]

53 minutes ago, TheBigKat said:

No need @Wes21 eloquently summarized the difference 

The difference is she’s smarter than Tepper. She’s still heavily involved.

Lions fans were furious about her involvement at first. So much so Dan Campbell had to come out and defend her.

Now they’re ok with it and sing her praises.

Winning fixes everything.

[ForJimmy]

1 hour ago, Wes21 said:

Not really.  Sheila is around the team and up to speed on everything Dan and Brad are doing.  But she doesn't make decisions or lead them down a particular road.  One benefit of having her around is it keeps Dan and Brad on track when the live bullets are flying.  They explain their draft plan ahead of time.  If they deviate, she doesn't pull rank.  She just mentions that they are doing something different than they said they would do.  Then they will explain why they are deviating from the original plan.

Another thing that happens alot is the coaches and staff give Sheila credit for things that had nothing to do with her.  So it makes it seem like she is "doing" more than she actually is.  BUT, one HUGE difference between Tepper and Sheila is that Sheila is willing to be patient and stay the course.  Frank Reich started 1-10 and got fired.  Dan Campbell started 0-10-1 and Sheila came out and publicly addressed the fans.  She told them she was as frustrated as anybody, but there is a plan in place and the team will reward their patience.  After winning only 3 games the first season, Dan started out 1-6 the following season.  Tepper fired Matt Rhule after a 1-4 start.  At 1-6 Sheila once again addressed the fans, preaching patience and allowing Dan and the staff time to show the fruits of their labor.  The team caught fire and finished the season 8-2.  The rest is history.

Matt Rhule’s 1-4 start was in year 3… This is Campbell’s year 3. If Rhule had us tracking and looking like a playoff team in year 3, he would still have a job. It’s really not the same thing. 

[Wes21]

51 minutes ago, Tbe said:

The difference is she’s smarter than Tepper. She’s still heavily involved.

Lions fans were furious about her involvement at first. So much so Dan Campbell had to come out and defend her.

Now they’re ok with it and sing her praises.

Winning fixes everything.

Fans were skeptical about Sheila's reported "involvement," but that was because someone tried to pump her up during an interview.  But he oversold it.  Which made it sound like Sheila was making football decisions.  She wasn't.  And you are absolutely right about Sheila being smarter about how she goes about her business than Tepper.  For anyone interested, here is the breakdown of the Lions power structure.

Sheila - Owner of the team since 2019 (officially in 2020).  She received ownership from her mother, Martha Firestone-Ford.  Martha was owner after her husband, Willie Clay Ford, died.  Willie was a bad owner but he was very loyal.  When Willie died and Martha took over, she made an important move.  During the 2015 season she appointed a man named Rod Wood to be Team President.  Rod was not a football guy by any stretch.  He was a highly trusted advisor who ran some of the Ford Family's other business and charitable interests.  At Rod's intro press conference he said "I am not qualified to run any other team but this one."   Lions fans were in a panic.  It turns out he was right in the bad way we were thinking, but also a good way.

Rod Wood - As Team President since 2015 and trusted family advisor for decades, Rod worked closely with Sheila when she took over the team.  HOWEVER, they both recognized they lacked the football knowledge to properly steer the ship on their own.  Rod's personality is very humble and he is very aware of his limitations.  He also likes to play the background and let others get the glory.  They decided to hire a "football guy" as a special advisor they could lean on.  They agreed to hire Lions legend Chris Spielman to fill that role.

Chris Spielman - Appointed by Sheila and Rod as a special advisor that reports directly to them on football matters.  However, he was given no real authority to actually "do" anything.  Chris' brother is Rick Spielman, former GM of the Vikings.  Chris has said "I know football, but I am not qualified to be a general manager."  That made him perfect for the role, because he would not be angling for the GM job or trying to be GM by proxy.  So that puts (3) people at the top of the food chain where none of them want to play general manager.  Chris played a critical role in using his connections to get a list of coaching and GM candidates to interview.  He also joined the interview process with Rod and Sheila.  A man named Mike Disner also joined the interviews.  He works under Rod on the executive side of operations.

John Dorsey - He fills a role as Senior Personnel Executive.  He is an experienced NFL GM that has a dual role of helping the General Manager as well as advising Sheila, Rod and Chris.  So if the top execs are doing something that is hindering the GM's ability to do his job, Dorsey is supposed to let them know.  He was also put in place to assist first time GM Brad Holmes get the program up and running.

Sheila has created a situation, by her own choice, that she is insulated by 2.5 people from making rash decisions as owner.  Her decisions are discussed with Rod and Chris at a minimum.  And for some discussions, Dorsey might be brought into the room.  One "incident" that was brought up earlier in the thread is when Sheila asked why the Lions were not taking a wide receiver.  Its important to understand the context.  Prior to the draft Brad and Dan said they were going too prioritize getting a WR.  That's what they told Sheila.  After the first round, Brad and Dan finalized their targets they wanted at WR in the second round.  At some point both of them realized if you look at how the draft was unfolding and their draft board, they would be reaching for a WR if they took one in the second round.  They also noticed that some of the guys they liked seemed like they would be available in the third and fourth round.  They took a DT in the second round and Sheila noticed they deviated from what they told her.  I can't imagine how Tepper would have reacted.  Brad took the time to explain to her why they took the guy they took, that the new plan was to go WR in the third or fourth round and showed her the list of guys they were targeting specifically.  She quickly understood and didn't challenge them on it.  The WR they ended up with was Amon-Ra St Brown.  So to say what has already been said.  Its easier to trust as an owner when the first time you might have doubted them ended up in a home run.