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MHS831 Grand Master

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3 minutes ago, Captroop said:

That was the line, but I really, really hope it's not true.

I'm just excited to have a YOUNG, offensive minded head coach who offers a fresh take and new perspective.

I've already made up my mind on Bryce. I wonder how long it will take the team to do likewise. But at this point, I've already got my eye on 2025. This is a year to move pawns and try to set us up for the future.

It is easy to throw Bryce out, but he could not have had worse conditions last year.  expected to pass from the pocket with no protection up the middle.

However, as I watch the film,  I see an offensive line that was totally confused.  Tom Brady in his prime would have sucked here.  I have not given up on Young---

 

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1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

We are making cuts that seem to have nothing to do with the cap.  Bozeman, Bell, Hurst....

...for 2024.  Morgan is playing the long game. He probably even told Tepper in his interview it would at least take one season of cleaning house to get the roster heading in the right direction.

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1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

We are making cuts that seem to have nothing to do with the cap.  Bozeman, Bell, Hurst....

They are all 3 either 30 or turning 30 this year.  Bozeman was a liability, Bell was a ok, and Hurst was below average.  This mid-level vets tying up cap space are gone.  I expect a youth movement to try to inspire this team to play with some passion.  

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3 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

It is easy to throw Bryce out, but he could not have had worse conditions last year.  expected to pass from the pocket with no protection up the middle.

However, as I watch the film,  I see an offensive line that was totally confused.  Tom Brady in his prime would have sucked here.  I have not given up on Young---

 

 

3 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

...for 2024.  Morgan is playing the long game. He probably even told Tepper in his interview it would at least take one season of cleaning house to get the roster heading in the right direction.

 

3 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

They are all 3 either 30 or turning 30 this year.  Bozeman was a liability, Bell was a ok, and Hurst was below average.  This mid-level vets tying up cap space are gone.  I expect a youth movement to try to inspire this team to play with some passion.  

Three really good comments. We may look back at this offseason as one of the best in Panther history based off what we DON'T do.

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7 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

It is easy to throw Bryce out, but he could not have had worse conditions last year.  expected to pass from the pocket with no protection up the middle.

However, as I watch the film,  I see an offensive line that was totally confused.  Tom Brady in his prime would have sucked here.  I have not given up on Young---

 

In a vacuum, sure. But now watch Bryce. Watch his footwork. Watch him throw. 

I'd feel way better moving forward if Bryce looked like a guy who was doing all he could in a bad situation but unfortunately he was very much a part of the bad situation.

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19 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

We are making cuts that seem to have nothing to do with the cap.  Bozeman, Bell, Hurst....

they're long term. they all have 2025 big savings, seems this year they are going for seeing if Bryce is the guy then making some big moves in 2025

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