Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Hope for TMJ?


MHS831
 Share

Recommended Posts

4 minutes ago, La Pantera said:

April Fools???

Just to get some new blood flowing--however, yes, he is still on the roster and a new system/coach might help.  I am going out on a limb here and going to speculate that the staff and front office know more than the Huddle--the over reactors of everything Panther related.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, CRA said:

Reason I pump the breaks on both TMJ and Mingo…..is they were just 500-700 per year collegiate guys. 

yep. And if they became that here, it would not be bad for the 4th and 5th WRs--they were over drafted.  Mingo had 418 yards in 2023 and TMJ had 490 yards in 2022--under horrible conditions for WRs.   Although rare, if everyone does their jobs, you don't necessarily need 2 1000 yd WRs. 

434551830_18083244751450621_805319928967751449_n.thumb.jpg.920b02c95ec3ef3749088b8e33186d1b.jpg

Edited by MHS831
Link to comment
Share on other sites

By the way--some of you need some ability to understand that a thread that is titled "Hope for TMJ?" Is not a ringing endorsement to fit him for a yellow jacket.  It means that he might still have a pulse, and perhaps it is too premature to throw dirt on his casket.  Do you comprehend the difference? 

 

Edited by MHS831
  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Just to get some new blood flowing--however, yes, he is still on the roster and a new system/coach might help.  I am going out on a limb here and going to speculate that the staff and front office know more than the Huddle--the over reactors of everything Panther related.

I had a ton of hope for him, entering every season. He had a shot last year to separate himself. He didn’t. He actually lost playing time. I doubt he makes it through camp at this point.

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

By the way--some of you need some ability to understand that a thread that is titled "Hope for TMJ?" Is not a ringing endorsement to fit him for a yellow jacket.  It means that he might still have a pulse, and perhaps it is too premature to throw dirt on his casket.  Do you comprehend the difference? 

 

Hugs Gif GIFs | Tenor

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, strato said:

No he is not being blamed for the last two seasons but you really cannot excuse Young’s effect last year. I know you want to, so you do.

 

 

So by your logic, the jury is still out on Ian Thomas because of the "Young effect".  All we have to do is ignore all of his previous seasons pre-Young where he looked like the same guy as last year.

  • Flames 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

So by your logic, the jury is still out on Ian Thomas because of the "Young effect".  All we have to do is ignore all of his previous seasons pre-Young where he looked like the same guy as last year.

And by that same logic, AT would have put up 1,400 yards with another QB.

also. Where’s the “shitty Oline effect” or “shitty WRs  effect “???

Edited by La Pantera
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I seem to remember TMJ having a good game or part of one, and Reich highlighted that, and the next week forgot to get him in the game. 

That was TMJ right? And Lavishka, same type of deal. 

 

Edited by strato
Link to comment
Share on other sites

24 minutes ago, strato said:

I seem to remember TMJ having a good game or part of one, and Reich highlighted that, and the next week forgot to get him in the game. 

That was TMJ right? And Lavishka, same type of deal. 

 

 

Yeah Frank was half asleep.  He also called up a play for a WR that wasn't on the field and had to use a timeout.  Still Bryce's fault thought damn it!

“I called a play for Thielen,” he said. “And then, I realized he was out. And I didn’t know he was out fast enough. It was a play that could only go to Thielen. So, I had to change the call. And that was the one we had to call a timeout on.”

Edited by ForJimmy
  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm not sure he deserves a roster spot, but I'd take him on the practice squad.  The effort didn't seem to be there last year and this is when I start giving up on players.  I hope he can turn it around and have a productive career.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Let's say we have a LT for 2026, because we do.  After that, let's say Ickey could be back and we would have the option of extending Walker.  That too is truth.  Don't get me wrong--I LOVE drafting OL, but drafting a first-round OT now is either wasting the money we just paid for a free agent OR it is like paying top dollar for a new car and keeping it in your garage for a season.  A first rounder should give us 4-5 years of cap relief by playing from day 1. I shall elaborate here: Teams obviously get desperate for OTs and if they enter the draft without 2 solid tackles, they are almost obligated to reach for a first round OT.  This year, I see 1 OT who is probably worth first-round consideration, and I am not putting him in the top 10 players in the draft.  Lomu, Freeling, Miller, and Proctor, for example, probably and arguably have second-round value.  So why would you reach for an OT in round 1 when you already have starters at both T positions but you have other needs? We do need depth, however, and I think there is decent OT depth that needs development on day 3. They are no slouches, by the way.   Drew Shelton (could drop to round 4): Surrendered 1 sack as Penn State's LT in 2025. 33 3/8" arms.  Pass pro improved every year (4 years--experienced).  "For a team running a zone-heavy scheme that values lateral movement and reach-blocking ability over phone-booth mauling, Shelton has real appeal. He is not a plug-and-play starter, but the athletic tools and the clear year-over-year improvement suggest a player who can develop into a capable starter if a coaching staff invests in his strength base and cleans up his technique. The ceiling depends entirely on how much stronger he can get and whether his feet can stay alive after initial contact."   Austin Barber  (could drop to round 4): I see him as a RT at best and a probable kick inside to Guard where his strengths would switch from secondary to primary tools.  Considering Lewis and Hunt may be gone in a year or two, this would give the Panthers a chance to work him at RT and then move him inside if he is not effective, and there is confidence that G may be his best position. Jude Bowery (4th round projection) was LT on a Boston College OL that was effective in the run game.  Bowery is one of the most athletic OTs in the draft.  His arms are not ideal but not too short (33.75") to play LT.  He surrendered 2 sacks. He is raw, and needs some technical refinement with his hands.  I think he has the best upside and value for this offense.   Dametrious Crownover  TexAM (5th round projection; 35 3/8" arms) is one of the more fascinating developmental tackles in this class because the physical tools are legitimately rare. A strong run blocker who should be better in pass protection with his tools.  "You do not find many 6-7, 336-pound men with that foot speed and who have the athletic background of a converted tight end. When everything clicks, he looks like a starting right tackle in a gap-heavy run scheme, smothering defenders at the point of attack and using his length to erase speed off the edge. The 2024 tape, when he anchored one of the best rushing attacks in the SEC, is the version of Crownover that gets offensive line coaches excited."  THIS is the kind of player our coaches could develop until Moton is done. What made World intriguing coming out of Eugene was the untapped ceiling, a fifth-year transfer who arrived as the top-ranked offensive tackle in the portal and looked the part for stretches. The improvement he showed against Big Ten competition in his one Oregon season was real, and the physical foundation, length, athleticism, and improving technique in pass protection, is still there. The ACL tear suffered in the College Football Playoff semifinal against Indiana doesn't erase that, but it changes the conversation significantly. The injury clouds the immediate projection. Most ACL recoveries for offensive linemen run nine to twelve months, which means World is likely unavailable for meaningful action well into his rookie season at the earliest. The combine absence removes his chance to reset the narrative physically, and teams will be making decisions almost entirely off pre-injury film and medical evaluations. The contrast between his polished pass sets and his inconsistent run blocking was already a developmental concern, and now those technique issues get deferred further while he rehabs. Isaiah World  (Oregon, injured ACL in playoffs, 5th round projection--could slide to 6th).  World will not play much if at all in 2026, which is why he might fall.  For the Panthers' purposes, however, this would give the OL coaches time to work with him. "What made World intriguing coming out of Eugene was the untapped ceiling, a fifth-year transfer who arrived as the top-ranked offensive tackle in the portal and looked the part for stretches. The improvement he showed against Big Ten competition in his one Oregon season was real, and the physical foundation, length, athleticism, and improving technique in pass protection, is still there. The ACL tear suffered in the College Football Playoff semifinal against Indiana doesn't erase that, but it changes the conversation significantly." "That said, the investment argument isn't crazy for the right organization. This is still a tackle with first-round portal grades and the kind of athletic profile that doesn't just disappear. A team with patience and a strong offensive line room can afford to stash World on the roster, let him develop his lower-body power and pad-level consistency during the recovery process, and potentially unlock a starting-caliber right tackle somewhere in his second or third season. The path is longer now, but the destination hasn't changed for a scout willing to bet on the physical tools." You get the idea. If we do not need the OT immediately, draft one later and develop him as depth and for next season.  Most college players drafted in round 1 were not first rounders if they had entered the draft the year before,  so why not grab a player with upside?      
    • Its never the QBs fault, so if we get a new WR and he looks bad he must be a bust
    • Based on what? Its certainly not his in game coaching prowess. 
×
×
  • Create New...