2024 After Draft Roster

[MHS831]

10 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

I still want to sign Gilmore 

Bootle is still on the team--he was good last year in very limited duty--I think Gilmore will get done.

[SetfreexX]

9 minutes ago, BIGH2001 said:

You should put (IR) next to Jaycee Horn. If Evero has this defense performing at a high level again he should be a HC somewhere next year. Still lacking quality depth and starters at several positions on that side.

Outside of CB 2 (unless you like Dane Jackson) where are starters absent on defense...

Woods, and Fuller

Horn, Jackson, Hill (Nickel)

Shaq, Jewell

Clowney, Wonnum

Brown, Tuttle, Robinson

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Where is the gap for a starter? If we plug in Gilmore this defense is better on paper than 23'.

 

Edited April 28, 2024 by SetfreexX

[micnificent28]

8 minutes ago, SetfreexX said:

Outside of CB 2 (unless you like Dane Jackson) where are starters absent on defense...

Woods, and Fuller

Horn, Jackson, Hill (Nickel)

Shaq, Jewell

Clowney, Wonnum

Brown, Tuttle, Robinson

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Where is the gap for a starter? If we plug in Gilmore this defense is better on paper than 23'.

 

I dunno if we are better unless you think clowney is better than burns and joey is better than luvu...

[Panthero]

49 minutes ago, Martin said:

Yes it was confirmed that Tuttle is the NT. 

Does that not seem odd? Robinson is the known better talent for that position. Was there a logic given? Seems a real head scratcher to me. Not to mention that Brown and Robinson both weigh more than Tuttle. The smallest starter is at Nose?! 

[mountainpantherfan2]

7 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

I dunno if we are better unless you think clowney is better than burns and joey is better than luvu...

I do think Clowney is better than Burns. Just as productive in rushing the passer but much better at defending the run. 
 

Joey is a down grade to Luvu though. 

[45catfan]

13 hours ago, Byrdman4real said:

I heard he will be a June 1 cut

We can do that now unless we have already used our allotment of designated June 1 cuts.  After just looking at his cap hit, we hang onto Sanders for a season. There's not a whole lot of difference in cutting him now versus June 1.  He's not horrible, just not starter material.  That would simply create another hole to fill and have to pay someone else.

Edited April 28, 2024 by 45catfan

[MHS831]

6 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

We can do that now unless we have already used our allotment of designated June 1 cuts.  After just looking at his cap hit, we hang onto Sanders for a season. There's not a whole lot of difference in cutting him now versus June 1.  He's not horrible, just not starter material.  That would simply create another hole to fill and have to pay someone else.

[MHS831]

1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

Here is what I do--you might want to put Brooks on the IR to start the season--that means he misses the first 4 to 7 games.  He can use the time learning the offense better and strengthening the knee.  Meanwhile, running behind the new OL, Hubbard and Sanders can hold it down.  After four games, the Panthers have a 21-day window to activate Brooks.  We could put Sanders on the block during that time, trying to get a trade for him.  If not, after week 7, put him the bench (inactive) then cut him June 2, 2025 and the cap hit is only $1,475,000 per year.  If Brooks enters the lineup on Week 8, for example, we'd get a fresh RB on a stronger knee midseason.  Not the best situation, but we can take a negative situation (Sanders not working out; Brooks' rehab) and make it work to our benefit more than cutting him outright.

[Martin]

1 hour ago, Panthero said:

Does that not seem odd? Robinson is the known better talent for that position. Was there a logic given? Seems a real head scratcher to me. Not to mention that Brown and Robinson both weigh more than Tuttle. The smallest starter is at Nose?! 

From what I understand he’s supposed to be very very good as a 3-4 end, I personally really like it (but I couldn’t be further from an expert). What surprised me the most is that we didn’t try to get a real NT and use Tuttle as the first backup end. 

[Martin]

57 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Here is what I do--you might want to put Brooks on the IR to start the season--that means he misses the first 4 to 7 games.  He can use the time learning the offense better and strengthening the knee.  Meanwhile, running behind the new OL, Hubbard and Sanders can hold it down.  After four games, the Panthers have a 21-day window to activate Brooks.  We could put Sanders on the block during that time, trying to get a trade for him.  If not, after week 7, put him the bench (inactive) then cut him June 2, 2025 and the cap hit is only $1,475,000 per year.  If Brooks enters the lineup on Week 8, for example, we'd get a fresh RB on a stronger knee midseason.  Not the best situation, but we can take a negative situation (Sanders not working out; Brooks' rehab) and make it work to our benefit more than cutting him outright.

From what I heard it was a clean ACL break, and not a tear, so it should heal relatively quick. He has already started running and cutting, so he should be 100% ready to go by training camp. So I expect him to be a day 1 starter.

[Jon Snow]

2 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

I dunno if we are better unless you think clowney is better than burns and joey is better than luvu...

I think it's a push. I do not know enough about Joey to know if he is better than Luvu but the stats are about the same I think. Clowney is better than Burns.

[Jaxel]

I think Gilmore will be ab addition. With that said I think, barring the developments of the offense, Defense will be looked at very heavily next year.

[Panthero]

1 hour ago, Martin said:

From what I understand he’s supposed to be very very good as a 3-4 end, I personally really like it (but I couldn’t be further from an expert). What surprised me the most is that we didn’t try to get a real NT and use Tuttle as the first backup end. 

Agreed, I think Tuttle is a poor choice as the starter at nose. Better as a backup at end to brown and Robinson (since they insist on slotting him there).

[Shocker]

I think some other teams cuts could replace TMJ, Smith-Marsette,and maybe Blackshear.  Ian Thomas as well.