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Jackie Lee

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ForJimmy Grand Master

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2 minutes ago, PappyMay said:

Maybe we I’ll actually hit on our 3rd rd comp picks for him.  Would hate to build out a 3-4 roster than swap back to a 4-3 is one of my fears. 

I'm thinking we keep the 3-4 regardless, because Brown is really shining as a 3-4 DE which looks to be his natural position.  He is pretty much the building block for out defense.  

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59 minutes ago, Mage said:

The real issue is the fact that this thread had nothing to do with Bryce Young, and yet once again somehow, someway, someone found a way to talk about how bad he is again.  It is just exhausting reading it over and over and over again, like we get it.  Bryce sucks.  And you can't even blame the "Bryce fanboys" because again, nobody had even talked about Bryce in this thread until that post.

Can we not just sticky a "Bryce sucks" thread at the top of the forum?

Similar happened when Cam was here, he dominated the forum comments. It's the life of a #1 QB on the worst team. 

 

Plus while I don't have much hope for little bryce, I don't think Im ready to say he sucks. But it is a big year for him, the biggest in his career. 

 

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If Bryce plays like last year, we will be picking high and can move on. 

But I am curious to see how people on here are when he sees success and becomes the guy, if he does. It's almost like people want him to fail.

He's got that Panther jersey on and a good attitude. I am rooting for him, as you should. 

Last year the coaching, OL, and weapons were abysmal, and it put him in a tough spot. He did not play well either, but we saw glimpses, and its a full team sport.

I choose to go into this year excited under a fresh new regime and a top prospect from 365 days ago at the helm with new OL and weapons.

Whatever happens, happens. Let's have some fun with it. 

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1 hour ago, Basbear said:

Similar happened when Cam was here, he dominated the forum comments. It's the life of a #1 QB on the worst team. 

 

Plus while I don't have much hope for little bryce, I don't think Im ready to say he sucks. But it is a big year for him, the biggest in his career.

It's amusing that people take the time to login here and wonder aloud why anyone is discussing the starting QB we traded the farm to acquire in a thread about a Panthers behind the scenes series called Panthers "blueprint". There is no blueprint without a franchise QB. Yes he is and will remain a focal point in any and all discussions.

told you so agree GIF by Bounce

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2 hours ago, frankw said:

Oh pantherclaw.......

Sir.

You yourself began this interaction with the following remark.

Now you have dedicated the bulk of a long winded post to as you put it "telling you how you think" and calling me stupid for doing so.

Being above average is the absolute floor for what I expect to see from him this season just an FYI.

Indeed we do want the same things. I'm not better than you and vice versa. We are Panther fans. That's it.

How about we just agree to disagree and call it a day? Good talk.

I quoted someone else.

You could have avoided it all by not even responding.  

Peace. 

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8 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

How bad Franke thinks Bryce is.

This quote, right here, is simply implying how you feel about Bryce is abundantly clear, as every day you can't hold back.  That's all. 

You actually went on to prove my point!!!

Congratulations Franke sir. Have a great evening.  

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13 hours ago, frankw said:

It's amusing that people take the time to login here and wonder aloud why anyone is discussing the starting QB we traded the farm to acquire in a thread about a Panthers behind the scenes series called Panthers "blueprint". There is no blueprint without a franchise QB. Yes he is and will remain a focal point in any and all discussions.

told you so agree GIF by Bounce

There's no discussion anymore, it's just a circle jerk about how bad Bryce is, and it got old a while ago. 

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48 minutes ago, travisura said:

There's no discussion anymore, it's just a circle jerk about how bad Bryce is, and it got old a while ago. 

I think in the end we are all agreeing on the same point. Everyone wants the team/BY to be successful. Most comments are heavily nuanced in optimism or pessimism which rubs others the wrong way. Its a forum on the internet so I just go with it. 

The reality is that the org is trying to build a team that provides the offensive framework for a young QB to develop. If BY can’t do that (I hope he can and reserve judgement) it is unfortunate and they will need to look elsewhere. 

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On 6/4/2024 at 11:40 PM, frankw said:

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He needs to stop doing that. He has to stop doing that. If he can't then he's got to be one of the most physically limited, fundamentally flawed QBs ever in the history of gridiron football. 

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    • mrcompletely11
      Dan Morgan: Panthers will pickup BY’s 5th year.

      By mrcompletely11 · Posted

      we are not talking about the 5th we are talking about bryce being one of if not the worst starter in the nfl for the past 3 years.  Dont move the goalposts my man
    • XClown1986
      Dan Morgan: Panthers will pickup BY’s 5th year.

      By XClown1986 · Posted

      The issue is the position Bryce plays. Finding a good/great quarterback isn't easy. Plus, it sometimes takes years for these guys to actually become good/great. What you have to look for is progress instead of regression. Bryce has shown that. Can he put it all together? We don't know yet. But that's why you place a smaller bet with the 5th year option, and wait to see. You could be wrong and lose your 30 mil bet, but you didn't hitch your wagon long-term and lose much more.
    • woahfraze
      Dan Morgan: Panthers will pickup BY’s 5th year.

      By woahfraze · Posted

      Absolutely not. That’s too much for replacement level player. Bryce may be that. Or he may turn into something more. If you can’t see the flashes, you’re willfully blind. There’s more bad than good right now, but there’s less bad than there was earlier in his career. He’s only 24 and he’s showing signs of improvement. He may never become consistent enough to justify a long term contract, but he’s shown enough to roll the dice on what effectively will turn into a 2 year, $30MM contract for the next two years to see if he can earn something longer.    Sure, in his one season starting, Howell managed to throw for 3,946 yards and toss 21 TDs, but it took throwing the ball an astounding 612 times. He also threw 21 INTs (for a particularly egregious 3.4 INT%). For all the talk of him being a deep ball thrower, he still only averaged 6.4 YPA, with an average air yards of 5.6 yards per attempt. And for all the excuses of Washington’s line giving him no protection (65 sacks taken that year), he was only pressured on 22.7% of his dropbacks, which is a few percentage points lower than what Bryce has had to deal with each year (24.2, 26.7, and 24.0%).    These are all numbers that are at best roughly equivalent to Bryce’s production the past two years. It’s wild to me people can claim so confidently that he’s a better QB. 
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