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From the ground up: How the Panthers are retooling Bryce Young's footwork to slow down time

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Just now, Jon Snow said:

This is going to go over well.

It's far better than just relying on him to be a super processor. If he has any chance his footwork has to be rebuilt. Snark aside, I'm glad they're admitting it and trying to address it. I'd be lying if I said I expect it to work but you gotta at least try.

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3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Why put this out?

This is the type of crap that gets people hired there now so they think everyone else will love it also. It's still a clown show fyi, example all of this

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They’re backing themselves into a corner if this goes south 

They’re talking about getting his feet right and the ball coming out quick. Well if that doesn’t work there’s nothing left to do. Given the fact Young was drafted 1st due to his ability to process on paper this sounds like the perfect combination

There will be no excuses left after this year for Bryce. 

 

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5 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

They’re backing themselves into a corner if this goes south 

They’re talking about getting his feet right and the ball coming out quick. Well if that doesn’t work there’s nothing left to do. Given the fact Young was drafted 1st due to his ability to process on paper this sounds like the perfect combination

There will be no excuses left after this year for Bryce. 

There is no reason to think the team would stick with Bryce if he continues to look terrible this year.  I'm not sure why so many people are concerned about that.  Not necessarily saying you are, it is just a sentiment I see a lot around here.  

The fact of the matter is the leash for QBs has NEVER been shorter in league history.  Trey Lance didn't even get a 3rd season with the 49ers.  Zach Wilson only got 2 seasons (they didn't plan for him to start his 3rd year) and he's on a new team.  And the Panthers have been cycling through QBs like hot cakes under Tepper.  There just isn't any reason to think the Panthers won't be willing to move onto Bryce.

IMO the only way Bryce looks bad and is still on the starter next year is if the Panthers aren't picking top 3 and can't get a first round QB that they like.  And even then, I would expect the team to make a play in free agency.  So I don't think they are backing themselves in a corner.  

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Sounds like they haven’t made the playbook yet. 

Waiting to see what everyone does best.

Interesting.


And as the coaching staff gets to know Young better, that rhythm will adjust how they build a playbook and eventually, call games.

"We're going to fit this offense to Bryce," Carroll promised. "Right now we're in the process of teaching all of our concepts still. As we get closer through training camp and then finally in the season, we'll finally get to our real offense and what we're going to be with Bryce, and he'll have input at times on certain things that he likes. And we'll try to make the best out of what we have here and try to be as hard to stop on offense as possible."

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    • MasterAwesome
      How many Qbs can you name better than Bryce Young?

      By MasterAwesome · Posted

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    • CRA
      A question no one is asking about Bryce and The Panthers

      By CRA · Posted

      CMC said he expected to play his career here.  He didn't think he would be traded.  Carolina decided they wanted to trade him.  He picked here he wanted to go.   But we dumped him.  For largely peanuts.   But we dumped DJ Moore and he never had a blood and guts game.   So it's never a guarantee. 
    • Manna
      A question no one is asking about Bryce and The Panthers

      By Manna · Posted

      I have many people telling me CMC was blindsided and heartbroken by the trade, but that's not how I remember everything going down.  49ers are pretty wounded right now on defense so if our offense can sustain drives and score, that'd be the difference maker. Their offense? I'm not scared of CMC. 
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