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How the Carolina Panthers found themselves in the worst situation

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Owner hired an inept college coach to run the team which was the start. Then tired to rebuild the team as the Seahawks did by using lower tier players and didn't get the same results. Then didn't take an offer to trade Burns which was a sweet heart of a deal. Can't bungle your way to the top now days.

 

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Didn’t hire Wilks to be Head coach and didn’t retain Sam Darnold while trading away Brian Burns. 
 

Could have rebuilt with a quality head coach and serviceable quarterback while also stacking picks. Sam Darnold is still only 26 years old. Let that sink in. He is twenty six. Assuming he figures it out, he could have another 14 years. 

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9 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Didn’t hire Wilks to be Head coach and didn’t retain Sam Darnold while trading away Brian Burns. 
 

Could have rebuilt with a quality head coach and serviceable quarterback while also stacking picks. Sam Darnold is still only 26 years old. Let that sink in. He is twenty six. Assuming he figures it out, he could have another 14 years. 

Darnold is never going to figure it out, and Wilks ceiling is .500 level coach with maybe a shot at a wild card one and done every year. Neither were the answer.

Didn't think there'd still be Darnold truthers in 2024 but here we are.

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3 minutes ago, travisura said:

Darnold is never going to figure it out, and Wilks ceiling is .500 level coach with maybe a shot at a wild card one and done every year. Neither were the answer.

Didn't think there'd still be Darnold truthers in 2024 but here we are.

I wonder if these Darnold people want us to give Bryce the 6-7 years the league has for Sam? I mean the team that signed Darnold this offseason immediately traded up to trade a QB because they know he isn’t the answer. You have to keep swinging for a QB until you land one. 

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What about Darnold is not an upgrade from what we saw our QB do last year?

Bryce was bad. Darnold is also bad. Neither have shown so far that they are franchise QB material. The difference is, Bryce only has one year under his belt, whereas Darnold has well proven what he is, and what he isn't. I don't think you should let Bryce's poor play make you pine for Darnold. 

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Darnold aside, Tepper never should have given Wilks the interim job if he wasn't going to have a real shot at getting the position.  The easy move was to wait and let Rhule lose the rest of the games.  Didn't need to fire him and trade CMC to try and force that outcome.  We all saw how that worked out.

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The NFL forced the team to be sold to David Tepper. It's been all downhill from there. It really is just that simple. 

There were 2 real options that wanted to buy and neither were great options. They went with Haslam 2.0 vs the local scum bag. Hell the Diddlier tried to put a group together to buy it and that would have been fun considering his issues. 

The Panthers fans were always doomed. The best hope now is that Nicole sales when David kicks it. 

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16 minutes ago, travisura said:

Bryce was bad. Darnold is also bad. Neither have shown so far that they are franchise QB material. The difference is, Bryce only has one year under his belt, whereas Darnold has well proven what he is, and what he isn't. I don't think you should let Bryce's poor play make you pine for Darnold. 

The biggest difference is they spent so much on Bryce that they have to roll with him 1 more year, it's non-optional from every angle. Tell me that if he was a 2nd or 3rd round pick they wouldn't have used this years 1st on a QB? 

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6 minutes ago, Waldo said:

There were 2 real options that wanted to buy and neither were great options. They went with Haslam 2.0 vs the local scum bag. Hell the Diddlier tried to put a group together to buy it and that would have been fun considering his issues. 

The Panthers fans were always doomed. The best hope now is that Nicole sales when David kicks it. 

We got fuged because the NFL forced JR out before they forced Snyder out. Not to defend JR but Snyder absolutely deserved to be the first to go. Tepper had already been hand picked by the good old boys club to be the next admitted so as soon as the Panthers were the first franchise on the block we were doomed. We were jumping on that grenade like it or not.

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