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2024 College Football Thread

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Possible and honestly, what better pitch to four and five star recruits (and maybe even more so to portal kids) whose ultimate goal is to play on Sundays? A lot of those kids just see the college game as a necessary pit stop on their way to the actual destination.

True, but what I got out of the clip of the interview was Bill wanted to be seen like a Bama, but not just sending blue chip guys to the League, but damn near finished products.

How that mentality is going to go over with Gen Z kids will remain to be seen. I can't see Bill patting guys on the back and hugging it out after their feelings have been hurt.  I have sneaking suspicion he's going to Bobby Knight himself sooner rather than later.

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10 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

13-11 with no wins over ranked teams would be a step back from Mack is what I'm saying.

Wait until y'all don't have Ward next year. Hope your defense isn't still UNC level or you'll be .500

 

His record pre and post Brady is startling. I don't think he's a good hire, especially at 72.

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35 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Belichick and Deion couldn't be more opposite. One is no nonsense life is ball, the other is all flash and bravado. I don't know if this is going to work out or not but if we can get the players I have no concerns about the coaching.

They’re are definitely different, personality wise. But they both bring star power to the recruitment table. But BB has the advantage in the coaching area. Albeit not with teens.

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10 minutes ago, La Pantera said:

They’re are definitely different, personality wise. But they both bring star power to the recruitment table. But BB has the advantage in the coaching area. Albeit not with teens.

I just honestly have no clue how Belichick will translate to recruiting. I can see that situation playing out either way. Everything about this hire is boom or bust IMO. We're about to become a powerhouse or a clown show. Can't really see much room for gray area in between. This is either really gonna work or really spectacularly flop.

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I just honestly have no clue how Belichick will translate to recruiting. I can see that situation playing out either way. Everything about this hire is boom or bust IMO. We're about to become a powerhouse or a clown show. Can't really see much room for gray area in between. This is either really gonna work or really spectacularly flop.

I think the argument exists that it’s essentially Steve Belichick that is the real hire and his dad is gong to use his brand/face to help get the ball rolling and do basic install of what the program should be.   Then moving out of his way.  

and all the pipeline to the NFL balderdash is just that.  There already are tons of pipelines to the NFL and you don’t have to deal with BB’s nonsense to get there.   

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10 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think the argument exists that it’s essentially Steve Belichick that is the real hire and his dad is gong to use his brand/face to help get the ball rolling and do basic install of what the program should be.   Then moving out of his way.  

and all the pipeline to the NFL balderdash is just that.  There already are tons of pipelines to the NFL and you don’t have to deal with BB’s nonsense to get there.   

You don't see any path for this to work out? You seem a bit shook. LOL

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17 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You don't see any path for this to work out? You seem a bit shook. LOL

Well, I think if we had the hypothetical discussion on Bill coming to college a month ago….we would be basically Brady and Gronk laughing at it together.  

I mean there is a path for it to work.  A path for Dabo to win his 3rd natty I guess too.   I don’t think they are high % plays. 

I think we will know fairly quick if BB’s brand means that much in college football.  Have to see who leaves and jumps in the portal for him.  
 

 

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