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Mr. Scot

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carpanfan96 Grand Master

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3 hours ago, PantherChris said:

Lol

What?? His run protection is in the 80’s… his pass pro is in the 60’s. 5 penalties which is top 10 among tackles.. given up 1 sack. 86% pass pro win rate “rounded up” which puts him at 42nd among tackles in win rate. “Moton is at 97%, which is 2nd” 


He’s simply not a good pass blocker at tackle right now, doesn't mean he can’t be, because he’s definitely shown flashes of it. 

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26 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

What?? His run protection is in the 80’s… his pass pro is in the 60’s. 5 penalties which is top 10 among tackles.. given up 1 sack. 86% pass pro win rate “rounded up” which puts him at 42nd among tackles in win rate. “Moton is at 97%, which is 2nd” 


He’s simply not a good pass blocker at tackle right now, doesn't mean he can’t be, because he’s definitely shown flashes of it. 

Interestingly the overwhelming #1 guy in penalties so far is perennial Pro Bowler Laremy Tunsil with 11.

Also Ikey is technically in a 7 way tie for 6th place in penalties.

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42 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Not equally--a vet LT relies less on a vet G-What is the point of your comment--trying to be clever? 

I'm saying that no one wants to play next to a weak link. The more experienced and better that the lineman next to you is, and the more chemistry that the line is able to develop as a unit, the better that everyone will play. That's all I'm saying.

 

With Ickey, the traits were always there, it just takes time to develop. I think we're doing some players a disservice by expecting them to be great off the bat. They can flash, but they're playing is likely going to be uneven until the light turns on.

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6 minutes ago, TD alt said:

I'm saying that no one wants to play next to a weak link. The more experienced and better that the lineman next to you is, and the more chemistry that the line is able to develop as a unit, the better that everyone will play. That's all I'm saying.

 

With Ickey, the traits were always there, it just takes time to develop. I think we're doing some players a disservice by expecting them to be great off the bat. They can flash, but they're playing is likely going to be uneven until the light turns on.

Andrew Thomas comes to mind. He was trash for about two seasons before the light clicked.

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5 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Agree 100% on all points. The first thing they need to get right is  drafting. Until they start hitting on draft picks nothing else will matter. At least clear the cap while they suck.

Clearing the cap while having a small iota of success in the draft will get the Panthers where they needed to be 5 years ago.

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I would keep him where he is at for now and pick up his 5th year option.  After next season identify a draft pick that can compete with him for his job or Moten's.  The kid is only 23.  Winner get's LT, loser to RT.  Too much potential to give up on him.  Worst case, bump him inside after Lewis's contract expires.

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49 minutes ago, BeenPounding said:

I would keep him where he is at for now and pick up his 5th year option.  After next season identify a draft pick that can compete with him for his job or Moten's.  The kid is only 23.  Winner get's LT, loser to RT.  Too much potential to give up on him.  Worst case, bump him inside after Lewis's contract expires.

Agreed. The positive is that we have a lot of other spots he could potentially go and be as if not more successful.

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5 hours ago, TD alt said:

I'm saying that no one wants to play next to a weak link. The more experienced and better that the lineman next to you is, and the more chemistry that the line is able to develop as a unit, the better that everyone will play. That's all I'm saying.

 

With Ickey, the traits were always there, it just takes time to develop. I think we're doing some players a disservice by expecting them to be great off the bat. They can flash, but they're playing is likely going to be uneven until the light turns on.

I think he would be a better G, FWIW.  But we are locked in to his development.  And my point was he did look bad and confused at times when there was a swinging gate at LG...same page

 

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15 hours ago, BeenPounding said:

I would keep him where he is at for now and pick up his 5th year option.  After next season identify a draft pick that can compete with him for his job or Moten's.  The kid is only 23.  Winner get's LT, loser to RT.  Too much potential to give up on him.  Worst case, bump him inside after Lewis's contract expires.

Makes sense to me.

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