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Would You Get a QB in 2025 draft, or not??


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41 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah the loaded class of TLaw, Zach Wilson, Lance, Fields, and Mac Jones wasn’t that loaded after all. 

Yea and the Kenny Pickett class wasn’t so hot either.  Most classes aren’t good.  Especially when they aren’t advertised as such.  But you guys go ahead and fawn over the next EJ Manuel.

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18 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Sometimes that's the way it goes and generally speaking as of late it's rarely the "consensus QB1" that ends up being the best of the bunch.

Heck, of late, the #1 overall QB has been a meh to bad investment for most.  

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31 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Yea and the Kenny Pickett class wasn’t so hot either.  Most classes aren’t good.  Especially when they aren’t advertised as such.  But you guys go ahead and fawn over the next EJ Manuel.

So just don’t draft one again because they might be bad? I’m leaning bridge QB and edge with our first right now. We have to upgrade this roster’s talent. However, out of the class I like Ward the most so far.

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Just now, ForJimmy said:

So just don’t draft one again because they might be bad? I’m leaning bridge QB and edge with our first right now. We have to upgrade this roster’s talent. However, out of the class I like Ward the most so far.

Na but I wouldn’t take one of these guys in the 1st.  I don’t see anyone that has it besides Sanders.  We need a QB but that need isn’t going to make any of these guys good enough.

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1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah the loaded class of TLaw, Zach Wilson, Lance, Fields, and Mac Jones wasn’t that loaded after all. 

Trevor, Fields and a wildcard with Lance.  People that were high on Wilson and Jones were simply inflating their stock.  I knew Wilson was all hype and thought Jones at best was a solid backup/below average starter.  I'll eat crow on Lance.  I really liked him, but he taught me a VERY valuable lesson. RSO QBs are NOT NFL ready. I'll never fall into that trap again, no matter how physically gifted they may happen to be.

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13 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

Bit early for this question but we can all see how this season is trending. 

I thought this would be an interesting question. What would you personally do at QB in 2025 off-season? And what do you think the Panthers would do?

I would draft almost all defense and get a reasonable vet QB like Flacco or keep Dalton for the cheap. And keep building the team until we've demonstrated that were a playoff ish caliber team and ready to get a QB. 

And ideally we'd sit that QB like Packers do. 

What I expect. Is Canales will be pressured to get a QB in 2025. Maybe not in R1 but he could easily take one in R2 or R3. Especially if the QBs this year aren't expected to rank highly on draft boards (similar to the Pickett/Corall draft). 

 

He'll probably get his vet qb of his own choosing this off season as well.

What Minnesota is doing is interesting because Darnold is a Free Agent after this year. Either Darnold could come available or they keep him and trade off JJ McCarthy possibly.

I don't think there is any rush on QB minus maybe make another offer to Dalton(at a reasonable price). If there is a high caliber QB available in the draft(seems less likely this class), then take one. If there is a decent gamble at QB in the 4th round or lower, fine, take a swing. 

I would much rather keep Dalton than get Darnold. We have seen Darnold look competent with a high caliber offense. That isn't here and I don't think that's a successful path moving forward. Let someone else give him the Matt Cassell/Jimmy G type deal and figure out the truth.

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2 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

Depends if we can land a serviceable bridge QB. You get one of those and we can try to build an actual roster for a rookie QB to be out in later. 

I'm not opposed to a bridge QB, but if there is a rookie QB in the 25' draft we like snap him up of course. The o-line is solid when healthy, and the depth is good as well. It would depend on what the rookie looked like in practice as to if I'd want him to start the 2025 season. If he's looking shaky in practice, then out comes the bridge QB to start the season. No need to traumatize the rookie, but all people are not the same. Some guys can start as a rookie and excel. Just depends on who we land and how they respond to NFL level competition and that's an on the fly kind of thing to decide of course. 

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this current team has arguably one of the best interior oLines in the NFL & was designed for one specific reason & that was to develop a Qb 

so yeah I think  it makes perfect sense to draft a Qb in 2025 

...just saying

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34 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Somebody (or two) that nobody is expecting will be available this offseason it never fails. 
 

Also Lock and Rudolph would be good veterans to lean on. Not too old and good potential. Especially since Canales is the career reviver for QBs- allegedly. 

Someone was saying the really wanted Lock. 

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2 hours ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Somebody (or two) that nobody is expecting will be available this offseason it never fails. 
 

Also Lock and Rudolph would be good veterans to lean on. Not too old and good potential. Especially since Canales is the career reviver for QBs- allegedly. 

Hell no to lock and Rudolph. I would rather just keep Dalton. 

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13 hours ago, strato said:

Is he actually a bona fide 6'2", is sort of my point. 

Like Bryce, at 204 pounds and 5'10' without the hair.

I don't like that so much in the top 5 or wherever. At the same time, I would back a (unpressured by Tepper) Canales selection, as he is owed his quarterback to coach for his job with.

What makes you think he's not 6'2"?

All of his OLinemen are a legit 6'5"+ if that's your point of reference.

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13 hours ago, strato said:

Depends on the answer, and the tape. Which I haven't seen, as I said. I don't want to be hustled again. (on the Mahomes comps)

There was no Mahomes comp for anyone that actually watched Young play football.

Ward has the ability to throw from multiple arm angles, but he doesn't have anything like Mahomes' arm strength.

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