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Dianna Russian: several teams interested in Bryce Young

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49 minutes ago, strato said:

Well, there are degrees. At this point I am not sure who would be uglier between Young and Plummer. Plummer probably isn’t getting much work right now. 
 

If they are not considering that there is a scenario where they may have to call on Plummer before the season is over then I would consider that incompetent.

Andy is not going to finish the season as the starter. It's just a matter of time before he's on IR. If Young is forced into action then Plummer is now the backup by default. 

It appears Canales would rather drag Andy out there no matter what so who's the backup if not Young? I have no clue what the plan would be going forward. It's just a mess.

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Teams want to work with Young. They don't want him to come in and be their franchise QB next season.

Anyone else tired of this 1st round QB swap drama? They're not who you thought they were. They are who they've shown themselves to be.

These hyped QBs are college Heisman show ponies hand picked as HS QBs by the Trent Dilfer and Mark Sanchez gurus. Then they're surrounded by actual talent in college padding numbers against weaker schools.

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7 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

If they are not considering that there is a scenario where they may have to call on Plummer before the season is over then I would consider that incompetent.

Andy is not going to finish the season as the starter. It's just a matter of time before he's on IR. If Young is forced into action then Plummer is now the backup by default. 

It appears Canales would rather drag Andy out there no matter what so who's the backup if not Young? I have no clue what the plan would be going forward. It's just a mess.

It will be a mess until they fix the mess. The only way the QB room makes sense is  more Bryce coddling, protecting, sheltering, nurturing however you want to characterize that. Andy was no threat by contract, Plummer I am not even sure what they could have seen. 
When he (Bryce) proves to be an empty vessel, you only have Dalton. I mean, I’d love to see more in Plummer than I thought there was to see, don’t know how that will work out. 
From what I have seen from Bryce a large number of people should be able to best him in a competition for a job. Just not sure it automatically extends to 3rd string emergency guys that haven’t been running the 1st or scout team offense. 
 

 

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49 minutes ago, Lurk21 said:

Well the only thing in the midst off how bad Bryce has played, every Qb that's left looked better after leaving... I think Bryce is no more than a backup but Gms may see a rookie contract and take the shot bc of Darnold n Baker. 

Every QB that's left also looked better before coming to Carolina too. I'll agree that Carolina's coaching and development has been poor for a good while now, but Bryce never had the tools to come in and light the league on fire. That is not going to magically happen anywhere else either. If he turns into Teddy 2.0 for someone else, well, good for them. Not a level of QB play I care to watch anyway... been there, done that.

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38 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Every QB that's left also looked better before coming to Carolina too. I'll agree that Carolina's coaching and development has been poor for a good while now, but Bryce never had the tools to come in and light the league on fire. That is not going to magically happen anywhere else either. If he turns into Teddy 2.0 for someone else, well, good for them. Not a level of QB play I care to watch anyway... been there, done that.

I agree  but just stating that the whole ITS BC OF CAROLINA mantra  gives some gms hope they can squeeze more out of someone!

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Yeah. It’s as if people think Tepper is coaching them. Let them follow the illogic. Sun Tzu told us this  

If you want to accept that Young was ruined (it’s the other way around to me), what does it have to do with other QBs who were entirely with other coaches? 

Is it like the Bermuda Triangle? You enter it and you suck you leave it you don’t? Pretty sure, no. 

As far as return, stack up even a conservative pile of what he cost, and then realize you are arguing about the difference between a 3rd, 5th or 6th, who the hell cares? You will never get anywhere close to salvaged. Make the best deal you can and have it done.

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3 hours ago, electro's horse said:

yeah because we have eyes and have seen him play 

I'm not saying he hasn't been awful, but he was a highly regarded QB prospect not that long ago and there are ALWAYS teams who will take a shot on a player like that, even if they haven't lived up to their draft stock. Especially when the narrative is that his failure was 100% on the organization and team around him.

See: Sam Darnold.

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