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Just now, MGH1989 said:

Anyone saying Panthers need to draft a QB in 2025 is brain dead.

 

This D is disgusting.

Yes. Been years of misusing the draft.

This defense should be stacked. Instead, we get wasted picks on trading up and trading for multiple QBs.

Evero would still call this soft 34 nonsense though. A 34 is nothing if it can't bring edge pressure and disguise blitzes from every gap.

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2 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

Theres a lot of fans already screaming their heads off for Cam Ward. Its gonna be a fun off season lol

If there was a generational QB. Do it. Cam Ward isn’t. The only way you truly get elite players is through the draft, especially for a team this bad. Another year swinging at QB is another year you miss out at elite talent at the top of the draft.

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Just now, Hoenheim said:

Why doesn't Canales at least let Bryce TRY to throw down the field??? What is even the point of all of these dink and dunk bull poo passes behind the LOS?? So fuging stupid 

You are assuming Canales is making a choice to not let him throw downfield.  I think its more likely that Bryce takes the short throw many times when he has the option to throw it long.  

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5 minutes ago, BIGH2001 said:

Not that we have much choice but Dave Canales is not a good head coach right now. 

How can he be? No great coach can work with what he has been given. This aint an endorsement, this just the honest truth.

Yall ready to bring a 3rd coach in here and tell him to shine a turd?? 

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Just now, CPantherKing said:

Yes. Been years of misusing the draft.

This defense should be stacked. Instead, we get wasted picks on trading up and trading for multiple QBs.

Evero would still call this soft 34 nonsense though. A 34 is nothing if it can't bring edge pressure and disguise blitzes from every gap.

Tepper wants to run a 3-4….at least he made Ron R. run a 3-4 during his last year. 

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1 minute ago, CPF4LIFE said:

How can he be? No great coach can work with what he has been given. This aint an endorsement, this just the honest truth.

Yall ready to bring a 3rd coach in here and tell him to shine a turd?? 

Yep. Bryce has longer routes being ran. He just can’t see them or doesn’t trust himself.

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