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Rookie Tracking - Some Good Signs

Bear Hands

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5 hours ago, frankw said:

You guys slurping Dan Morgan might want to slow your roll. After the Giants we've got Chiefs Bucs Eagles Cowboys Cardinals. Suffice to say there's going to be a few bumpy games that will put a bit of a dent in this Dan Morgan can do no wrong parade.

I don't yet support or dislike Morgan as GM and it doesn't have to be all in or all out here. Morgan has made some decent moves and some I question. Giving him credit for some decent moves doesn't necessarily mean sucking him off. I don't know what I think of him yet but I'm not going to trash his every move he makes just because I don't like the guy for some odd reason or because he worked under Fitt. He is here and probably for a bit whether anybody on this message board likes it or not.

 

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6 hours ago, frankw said:

You guys slurping Dan Morgan might want to slow your roll. After the Giants we've got Chiefs Bucs Eagles Cowboys Cardinals. Suffice to say there's going to be a few bumpy games that will put a bit of a dent in this Dan Morgan can do no wrong parade.

You are missing the point by a country mile.

At this point it as nothing to do with wins. 

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2 hours ago, csx said:

You are missing the point by a country mile.

At this point it as nothing to do with wins. 

I'm well aware this is a developmental season but we also did not enter this season with our GM telling us it was a full rebuild. He specifically said it was a "retooling". That is the issue why he is not getting a pass from some people. He like Fitterer before him lacks the understanding that we are not a player or even a few players away from truly competing.

And this franchise has the worst win percentage in all of professional sports the last few years. Let's not sit here and say this has nothing to do with wins. No one in this organization is paid to put out a terrible product.

As of right now we are barely ahead of the Saints for worst team in the league. Congratulations Dan I guess.

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2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

He owns the Panthers record for worst. In the nfl? He has a lot of competition for worst GM but I'm struggling to think of one at the moment. 

Without the BY trade he’s just a run of the mill bad GM. Trading away what he did for a massive bust at QB? That will shoot you up to the top of the list 

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36 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

He owns the Panthers record for worst. In the nfl? He has a lot of competition for worst GM but I'm struggling to think of one at the moment. 

Matt Millen might be in the conversation. You can probably look at a bunch of old school losing teams and look up their GMs. We don't remember their names.

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9 hours ago, App Panther said:

The kids are alright...

The vets though..on defense…yeah, we don’t have the best lol. 

Overall, the Defense needs some heavy duty offseason cleaning — we need to find a potential stud pass rusher and some other pieces. Injuries hit us huge too. 

Good drafting will cure a lot of things, it seems like a step in the right direction, but l’m not necessarily anointing Morgan yet.  

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8 hours ago, hepcat said:

How bad was Scott Fitterer? Worst GM in the history of the NFL or just in Panthers history?

The combination of Matt Rhule, Scott Fitterer and David Tepper might be the worst in the history of the league or at least in the convo

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On 11/4/2024 at 1:27 PM, hepcat said:

How bad was Scott Fitterer? Worst GM in the history of the NFL or just in Panthers history?

Recency bias (and fan bias) but he absolutely tanked the Panthers franchise in just 3 Drafts.

Hired in 2021, fired before the 2024 Draft.

Players that are still on the team (starters highlighted):

Horn, Christensen, Tremble, Hubbard, Ekwonu, Barno, Mays, Young, Johnson, Zavala.

That's horrific. 

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