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Bryce Young what a crazy statement

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Davidson Deac II Grand Master

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50 minutes ago, frankw said:

When Bryce Young leads this offense to multiple 30+ point outings primarily through the passing game I will begin to become a believer.

Until then everything remains in perspective.

By that standard, you would not believe in any qb this year, except perhaps Josh Allen.  

Patrick Mahomes is the best qb in the NFL and he has two 30 point games this year.  He had only two last year.  Scoring is down in the NFL and 30 point games happen less often than the did in previous years.  

My only requirement for now is that he consistently plays well, keeps the turnovers to a low number and give us a shot to win games.  

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1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

By that standard, you would not believe in any qb this year, except perhaps Josh Allen.  

Patrick Mahomes is the best qb in the NFL and he has two 30 point games this year.  He had only two last year.  Scoring is down in the NFL and 30 point games happen less often than the did in previous years.  

My only requirement for now is that he consistently plays well, keeps the turnovers to a low number and give us a shot to win games.  

Oh no what an insurmountable expectation. Right? lol

It literally only requires him to throw 2 passing touchdowns and then a couple more scoring drives letting Chuba Hubbard do the extra leg work.

We went to overtime against the NY Giants with one passing touchdown. That same team just got absolutely whooped by the Bucs. The Bucs aren't even that good either.

It's fine to have expecations guys.

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10 minutes ago, Icege said:

It's weird that folks keep saying Bryce's stat line was meh when he had only 6yds less than Mahomes on 6 less completions. Are we holding the 1 TD against him as if there weren't multiple endzone drops? That wouldn't make much sense.

So you're saying Bryce Young isn't getting the same benefit of the doubt as Patrick Mahomes?

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24 minutes ago, Icege said:

It's weird that folks keep saying Bryce's stat line was meh when he had only 6yds less than Mahomes on 6 less completions. Are we holding the 1 TD against him as if there weren't multiple endzone drops? That wouldn't make much sense.

Plus it's a team sport QBs start stat padding when thier defence gets stops and turnovers.

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3 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

He played like the kid coming out of Alabama. That's what he has done and what everyone expected him to do from the jump. What almost everyone failed to consider was what it would take to get him to play like that in the nfl. Turns out it was just a matter of confidence. 

There was so much red in the stands maybe he thought he was at Bama!

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1 hour ago, frankw said:

It's fine to have expecations guys.

But they should be realistic.  

30 point games are relatively rare this season, and they depend on more than just the qb. Plus high scoring is an expectation of the offense as a whole, not just the qb.  Receivers have to get better before we can get to that level.  

I expect, or at least want him make good decisions and limit turnovers.  Throw it accurately and play his best when the game is on the line.  

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