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10 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Wait a minute....So another qb just went off on that incredible chiefs defense??! NO WAY...SHUT UP! 😂

A Backup at that.

340 yards 2 touchdowns 9.7 yards per attempt 116.4 passer rating.

Aidan O'Connell is a jag at best.

Chiefs defense is overrated AF.

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6 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

I wonder if he was already calling the plays, or if he's gonna get one of his assistants to help with calling the offense so he can try to show a bit more overall focus than Eberflus in game lol. 

Well I'm going to assume he cannot have worse in game situational awareness than Eberflus but you never know lol.

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6 minutes ago, frankw said:

340 yards 2 touchdowns 9.7 yards per attempt 116.4 passer rating.

Aidan O'Connell is a jag at best.

Chiefs defense is overrated AF.

Facts. They are bottom half of the league against the pass when you breakdown the numbers. All that top defense crap was for them stopping the run. Too many qbs have put up good games against them now. It just doesnt mean your gonna win because  champs find a way in the end. 

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On 11/28/2024 at 3:04 PM, Mr. Scot said:

Some years back, country had gotten to ja point where it was just pop with a twang. That was when you saw the rise of "new traditionalists" like Randy Travis and Dwight Yoakam who wanted to take it back to its roots. 

Maybe they need people like that again.

They got people like that but I mean, go back to the 1970s and you had the outlaw movement which was the same thing basically, a reaction against what at the time they called Countrypolitan - with strings and sweeteners and very narrow artistic type of value system. 

The style of countrypolitan changes but the game remains.

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19 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't believe there is really any data to back that up.

Yeah… it might just feel that way because the game has become so pass friendly the last few years 

However, I think it’s slowly starting to trend back in the other direction which I’m all for. 

The NBA is a tough watch these days because all teams do is shoot 3’s. The NFL was becoming something similar with passing. Maybe I’m just getting old but I actually miss watching teams run the ball and defense was a thing 

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21 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

Yeah, all the mock drafts have that happening with us taking a fuging CB at 5 lol. 

One super under-the-radar thing is happening this year, and no one is paying attention. The recent first-rounder is Caleb Farley. He's still young and finally healthy. He's played fairly... Well too. 

 

I think he's from the area and likes home cooking. He has elite traits and has just been unhealthy. I mean, why not sign him at this point.?Be one less draft pick to use on DL.

 

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9 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't believe there is really any data to back that up.

Its not something that could be backed up by data one way or the other.  Its just an opinion, like most things stated here.  

Regarding my comment that started this discussion, Imo its more difficult to find good offensive linemen than wide receivers, due to a number of factors.  Granted that anyone that reaches the NFL has elite skills, but  I think that most players with the size, strength and skill would rather play on the defensive line.  If an offensive linemen does his job well, no one hears his name.  But if a Dlinemen gets to the qb a couple of times a game, all the fans know it.  

Have a good offensive line directly impacts the run and passing attacks.  Where as have a good group of receivers only indirectly impacts the run game.  Miami's run game has taken a huge hit this year, while ours have improved.  I think Hunt is a big part of the reason this is true.  Not the only part of course, but a big part.  

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8 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Its not something that could be backed up by data one way or the other.  Its just an opinion, like most things stated here.  

Regarding my comment that started this discussion, Imo its more difficult to find good offensive linemen than wide receivers, due to a number of factors.  Granted that anyone that reaches the NFL has elite skills, but  I think that most players with the size, strength and skill would rather play on the defensive line.  If an offensive linemen does his job well, no one hears his name.  But if a Dlinemen gets to the qb a couple of times a game, all the fans know it.  

Have a good offensive line directly impacts the run and passing attacks.  Where as have a good group of receivers only indirectly impacts the run game.  Miami's run game has taken a huge hit this year, while ours have improved.  I think Hunt is a big part of the reason this is true.  Not the only part of course, but a big part.  

I think Hunt and Lewis are a big part of the turnaround. You went from one of the worst IOL to easily a top 10 IOL(center is weaker, obviously).

I do think our offensive coaching has improved tremendously, as well.

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