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3 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

All things considered bryce seems to only have touch on his passes, he can't drive the ball in like cam could, could so by default anything he lays up is gonna look beautiful. Also, at one point people were saying the same things about Kyle Allen throws until reality hit. Its a True story. 

 

It is true but Kyle Allen never really had a deep ball game here. Yes, he'd connect on the occasional bomb but almost everything was right at the LoS. I posted a few of his passing charts here last week.

Bryce is threatening at every level. But his very deep balls generally blow, or are dropped lol

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1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

The two major improvements are that he's now somehow finding space in the pocket - he's stepped up and scrambled several times where in the past he'd just take a sack - and Canales has basically thrown any play that requires velocity on the ball out of the playbook.

Is it sustainable? Who knows. 


Ron took all touch and anticipation throws out of Cams playbook. It worked out ok.

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Just now, mav1234 said:

It is true but Kyle Allen never really had a deep ball game here. Yes, he'd connect on the occasional bomb but almost everything was right at the LoS. I posted a few of his passing charts here last week.

Bryce is threatening at every level. But his very deep balls generally blow, or are dropped lol

Aside from his first NFL start, Allen couldn't hit passes downfield worth a damn unless the WR was wiiiide open. And even then, it wasn't a lock.

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8 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

This isn't 2012... Passing offenses just aren't putting up many yards. Cam in 2012, based on y/g, is one of the top 5-10 passing offenses. Cam in 2012 was 16th it so... Compared to other players this year, Bryce IS playing well these last few games. 

Some years are down some years are up. The passing yardage leader for the season so far is Burrow with 3,337. Looking at the top 10 in that category 3 QB's haven't even cracked 3,000 yet.

Last season there were 10 QB's with over 4,000 passing yards. In 2022 there were 9. In 2021 there were 10 again. In 2020 there were 12.

I'm going to go with the assumption this year is more of an anomaly until proven otherwise.

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1 minute ago, frankw said:

Some years are down some years are up. The passing yardage leader for the season so far is Burrow with 3,337. Looking at the top 10 in that category 3 QB's haven't even cracked 3,000 yet.

Last season there were 10 QB's with over 4,000 passing yards. In 2022 there were 9. In 2021 there were 10 again. In 2020 there were 12.

I'm going to go with the assumption this year is more of an anomaly until proven otherwise.

They said that college just isn't producing good enough Quarterbacks anymore so teams are starting to go back to running the ball more. I just think it's a cycle

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1 minute ago, frankw said:

Some years are down some years are up. The passing yardage leader for the season so far is Burrow with 3,337. Looking at the top 10 in that category 3 QB's haven't even cracked 3,000 yet.

Last season there were 10 QB's with over 4,000 passing yards. In 2022 there were 9. In 2021 there were 10 again. In 2020 there were 12.

I'm going to go with the assumption this year is more of an anomaly until proven otherwise.

Defenses have adjusted to the 2010-2020 passing explosiveness. I think we'll see some rebounding there but overall, run games are also back. It's why I don't really care if Bryce has "only" 191 yards. 

I'm not crowning him, either - I just think it's ridiculous to say he's "serviceable" when he's kept us in games, putting us in a place to win, against three very good opponents the last three weeks.

I do hope Canales get a chance to pick the other QBs for the room. I'm less interested in a competition at this point exactly, versus having Canales really get a shot to choose the other QBs going into camp.

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