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I know most of y'all want defense but currently at pick 4...

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55 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

I don't think that term really exists. Everything is weighted.. Say Sanders is on the board and is the boa you not going to take him.. or that tackle who is currently top 5.. you not going to take him. Everything is weighted to some degree to fill a gap.

You take not only the BPA based on our respective big board, but the best day 1 starter available to us. The second part removes the QB's (who likely won't be available regardless assuming they go top three and we are drafting at 4-7, regardless panthers probably see Bryce as the future with his play improving) and OT's (since we just shelled out money to two OG, Icky playing better/no room to shift him inside)

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31 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Common sense.. I wrote a whole paragraph and because of one typo you came away with that lol.

it said the same thing twice about both situations... it wasnt a your / you're kinda deal.  Just a light hearted way to gave you the opportunity to clarify before I responded.  we good!  or as melo ball would say "we gang."

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

I don't think that term really exists. Everything is weighted.. Say Sanders is on the board and is the boa you not going to take him.. or that tackle who is currently top 5.. you not going to take him. Everything is weighted to some degree to fill a gap.

Or you’d trade back with Dallas and get a haul to move back 2 spots so they can get Sanders. I hate the BPA argument too for a top 10 pick, context matters a ton drafting that high. 

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2 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

We have seen if you want Jamar Chase, Nabers those type talents they go high... That's what Bryce needs to take the next step. I do love Abdul Carter if hunter goes Number 3 to New England.. but at pick 4 I think those are the only 2 options right now. 

Do we want those type of talents?  Seems to be they put up great numbers, but don't help their teams win Championships especially after 3-4 seasons when you have to pay them big money.  Linemen and Defensive front 7 picks are more boring, but they tend to be better at winning championships.    

Just look at the Lions.  Their first pick in the last 4 drafts db, rb, ol, and de.  And they have the best record in the NFC.  I think fan bases are overly obsessed with getting superstar wide receivers, even though there is not much evidence that having those superstar receivers actually leads to championships.  

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1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Do we want those type of talents?  Seems to be they put up great numbers, but don't help their teams win Championships especially after 3-4 seasons when you have to pay them big money.  Linemen and Defensive front 7 picks are more boring, but they tend to be better at winning championships.    

Just look at the Lions.  Their first pick in the last 4 drafts db, rb, ol, and de.  And they have the best record in the NFC.  I think fan bases are overly obsessed with getting superstar wide receivers, even though there is not much evidence that having those superstar receivers actually leads to championships.  

I must have missed where the Lions have won a championship (btw they have 2 elite WRs as well and St. Brown is a superstar WR) 

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1 hour ago, micnificent28 said:

I mean how... Where does he play? You benching icky.. benching moton?  Offensive line is a strength right now. Best since 2008.. if you take a tackle at 4 it doesn't make us much better at all.

They have to take an Oline guy in every draft if possible (or every other draft). Doesn't have to be a high pick, stockpile the best at the spot available. I will die on this hill. One of the most important positions on any team. 

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