Fix Your Franchise: Carolina Panthers

[CarolinaRideorDie]

 

This is an awesome breakdown by PFF of what the Panthers should do in the off season from who to cut, who to keep, cap space, free agent signings, and even including a 4 round mock draft. It's a long watch at 1 hour and 30 mins but they gave very good and detailed analysis of the team from strengths to weaknesses. 

Quick Summary: 

-need defense help all over the place. Only players worth keeping is Horn, Brown, and Clowney. They name drop realistic free agents on the D-line like Hoyt, Hurst, maybe Khalil Mack. They love signing safety Hufanga from SF as our enforcer in the back end. 

-on offense, they think Chris Godwin would be a slam dunk given familiarity with Canales, but think Godwin would command a lot of money. They think it'll take 30+ mill per year to get Higgins and he would likely be overpaid. Pats might sign Higgins at that money. 

-Draft wise, dream pick would be Mason Graham but given mock sim he went to Pats. So they pick Abdul Carter. These guys do a lot of research on college prospects and utilize PFF grades to see their value. They pick DT in 2nd, LB in 3, WR in 4th, and another DL in 4th. 

Overall pretty cool analysis and I would not be upset if the off season went like this. 

[OldhamA]

They lost me in the first 3 minutes when they mentioned the 'continued growth of Bryce Young'.

I knew I wouldn't enjoy the rest of it after that so I turned it off.

[TheSpecialJuan]

Thanks for posting 

[CarolinaRideorDie]

45 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

They lost me in the first 3 minutes when they mentioned the 'continued growth of Bryce Young'.

I knew I wouldn't enjoy the rest of it after that so I turned it off.

Even if you don’t care for Bryce Young, it’s still good content on what the team needs.

[mrcompletely11]

33 minutes ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

Even if you don’t care for Bryce Young, it’s still good content on what the team needs.

not really without a qb we are dead in the water

[MHS831]

2 hours ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

 

This is an awesome breakdown by PFF of what the Panthers should do in the off season from who to cut, who to keep, cap space, free agent signings, and even including a 4 round mock draft. It's a long watch at 1 hour and 30 mins but they gave very good and detailed analysis of the team from strengths to weaknesses. 

Quick Summary: 

-need defense help all over the place. Only players worth keeping is Horn, Brown, and Clowney. They name drop realistic free agents on the D-line like Hoyt, Hurst, maybe Khalil Mack. They love signing safety Hufanga from SF as our enforcer in the back end. 

-on offense, they think Chris Godwin would be a slam dunk given familiarity with Canales, but think Godwin would command a lot of money. They think it'll take 30+ mill per year to get Higgins and he would likely be overpaid. Pats might sign Higgins at that money. 

-Draft wise, dream pick would be Mason Graham but given mock sim he went to Pats. So they pick Abdul Carter. These guys do a lot of research on college prospects and utilize PFF grades to see their value. They pick DT in 2nd, LB in 3, WR in 4th, and another DL in 4th. 

Overall pretty cool analysis and I would not be upset if the off season went like this. 

THANKS FOR THE SUMMARY.

[TherapyTime]

Pretty entertaining and they made some good points about the existing roster and potential free agent moves. I feel like they didn't really work their FA / Draft  picks through the schemes that Canales and Evero play so I think that part is of limited value. The FA money sounded dead on at 45 - 60 and it was a  thorough eval of talent and needs. I also believe that this will be a defense heavy draft if it falls to us.

[Panthero]

First two picks are great. The rest were meh. A hybrid lb/s in the third aint it. A bum wr in the fourth aint it either. 

Edited December 18, 2024 by Panthero

[hepcat]

I wouldn't mind if the team focused on building a dominant defense the next 2 offseasons unless they're in a position to draft Arch Manning (whose family might refuse to let him play for the Panthers but we'll discuss that if it was ever a realistic possibility of drafting him)

The defense has been gutted and neglected since the all-defense draft of 2020, the only remaining player from that draft being Derrick Brown. I expect a defensive player taken with the inevitable top 10 pick the Panthers will have, probably a pass-rusher or defensive tackle, and hopefully following it up with a LB or S in the second round. 

This team has so many needs at almost every position, that although a blue chip player in the top of the first round seems like a great idea, it might be worth considering trading down some slots to accumulate picks later in the 2025 draft or in 2026. 

It's a damn shame Scott Fitterer was too stupid to trade Brian Burns to the Rams for 2 first round picks and a second round pick. The Panthers would be in a MUCH different situation right now if he had taken that trade. If I saw him on the street I'd seriously ask him why on god's green earth did you turn that trade down?

[fanpanther]

19 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

not really without a qb we are dead in the water

100% even if rest of team is really talented if they march young out to be qb and he plays like he has for 90% of his starts the panthers have already lost doesnt even matter how good the rest of the team is or isnt and also makes it hard to even tell how good they are.  They need true competition for young this offseason.  

[d-dave]

It was a fun video, until they got into the McDonald's stuff.  Sounded disgusting.  I also hate McDonalds and consider it the lowest form of fast food.  Bleh!  (my opinion)

As far as Bryce - he's shown a lot of promise to the coaches, the media and community.  If you're a Bryce doubter or hater, I got bad new: he's going to be QB in 2025.  I'm still personally in the "let's see how he grows."  I'm also not sure if any of the top QBs are better than him.  Then again, I have much NFL personnel experience as y'all do (zero).

I am all for the idea of building the team back up.  We need talent.  Look, if Bryce is inconsistent in 2025 and shows a real lack of growth and progress, then we'll still be in shape to draft a quality QB in the top half of the first round for 2026.

Next season is the make or break for Young.  I can imagine if he falls apart again, Dave will quickly yank him and start looking at the next QB class.

[OldhamA]

On 12/17/2024 at 10:49 PM, CarolinaRideorDie said:

Even if you don’t care for Bryce Young, it’s still good content on what the team needs.

Nah, not when you wilfully ignore the gaping, pus filled wound on the roster.

[OldhamA]

23 hours ago, d-dave said:

It was a fun video, until they got into the McDonald's stuff.  Sounded disgusting.  I also hate McDonalds and consider it the lowest form of fast food.  Bleh!  (my opinion)

As far as Bryce - he's shown a lot of promise to the coaches, the media and community.  If you're a Bryce doubter or hater, I got bad new: he's going to be QB in 2025.  I'm still personally in the "let's see how he grows."  I'm also not sure if any of the top QBs are better than him.  Then again, I have much NFL personnel experience as y'all do (zero).

I am all for the idea of building the team back up.  We need talent.  Look, if Bryce is inconsistent in 2025 and shows a real lack of growth and progress, then we'll still be in shape to draft a quality QB in the top half of the first round for 2026.

Next season is the make or break for Young.  I can imagine if he falls apart again, Dave will quickly yank him and start looking at the next QB class.

Genuinely, how many other QBs have been allowed to be THIS bad for THIS long in the NFL?

None. We're literally writing off another season (like we clearly did this season) by continuing to run him out there. 

[rayzor]