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NFL Playoffs

Jackie Lee

By Jackie Lee,
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WhoKnows Grand Master

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2 hours ago, Murph said:

Jayden Daniels has 2 career playoff wins. Same as Dak Prescott.

ROFL

Umm, just to remind you, Cam Newton only has 3 career playoff wins and one of those was against a 3rd string QB with 3 TDs and 11 INTs in his career.

Daniels is phenomenal and we were unlucky enough to pass on Stroud and trade away a pick that was one before Daniels. That said, don’t throw stones in glass houses. Saying Daniels is great doesn’t need to make fun of a QB whose playoff results remind us of our own historical playoff results.

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7 hours ago, Mike2.0 said:

Brandon Beane and Sean McDermott left in 2017, that was prior to Tepper buying the team. So we can’t blame Tepper for not firing the existing staff and promoting them.

Scott Fitterer was hired by Tepper to become our GM. So the timeline doesn’t fit for his inclusion in the hypothetical front office with Brandon Beane.

Could Jerry Richardson have acted after the 2016 season to fire Rivera and Gettleman? Perhaps, but usually a recent Super Bowl appearance and near perfect season (15-1) will give a head coach and GM extra time. Rivera survived and we bounced back (11-5), while Gettleman was fired months after the draft in July. By that point Beane had already left in May to replace Buffalo’s GM. In hindsight Richardson should have acted sooner if he planned to get rid of Gettleman, but something must have occurred to force Richardon’s hand to act at such an odd time.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but there’s no guarantee things would have turned out differently under McDermott and Beane. A lot would have been dependent on Cam Newton’s health and production because we wouldn’t have been showing him the door. It does make you wonder of what could have been, but as dominant as the Bills have become under Allen, McDermott and McDermott, they have yet to make and win a Super Bowl. At least we did under Newton, Rivera and Gettleman. It’s just their ending was like Delhomme and co, it ended with defeat in the Super Bowl and eventual winding down and clearing out of the team that got there. 

I've long believed that Richardson hired Gettleman knowing things needed to be fixed but after the turnaround was looking for an excuse to bring Marty back. 

Gantt said numerous times that Hurney was Richardson's GM "for life" as long as he wanted to be, results be damned. Had he not offered to call on the sword for Ron Rivera, he'd likely never have been fired in the first place.

But with the roster and salary cap issues fixed, Jerry probably figured he could just hand the machine over to Marty and let him run with it from there. 

Loyalty and personality were always what mattered most to Richardson. Performance was a distant second...if that.

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6 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Still not good for a #1 to lose like that. I figured they would at least win 1 playoff game.

Seems like for most people, the spotlight for that game is on Goff.

Ben Johnson likely salvaged Goff from going down as a bust, but he'll turn 31 this year. Plenty of quarterbacks don't last into their 30s. 

It's conceivable he's now passed his peak.

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3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'll be surprised if the Rams are competitive today with the forecast calling for snow in Philly. Seems like the conditions will heavily favor the far better rushing offense.

Nfl wants the la storyline rams win with questionable calls similiar to chiefs win.  And we get to hear non stop kelce swift and heartfelt la stories 

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