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Dane Brugler picks for Rd 1 and Rd 2.


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1 hour ago, PootieNunu said:

73 rec 900 yards 10 TDS. This is playing with a Top 5 elite QB and the 1a/1b WR in the league across from him.

I think someone is going to way overpay this dude and he is going to be a disappointment. 

Yeah, but I don't see it as a possible overpay in regards to talent---Higgins has shined when Chase wasn't even on the field (he has)---it may be an overpay if Higgins continues to be hurt for games at a time. 

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1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

Yeah I get it

Theres just so much potential there all around he’s easy to fall in love with as a prospect but like you said you can’t be a ghost against the run 

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This very topic was debated in another thread about going to a 4-3 vs a 3-4 alignment. These athletes in college are all much lighter and faster to rush the QB but they don't have the weight to defend the run. 4-3 DE are supposed to be in the mold of Julius Peppers, athletic but in the 270-280 pounds to defend the run and rush the passer. Avg O-linemen is 300+ lbs.  It's harder to find 4-3 DE now in college. 

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8 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

Walker is going to test off the chart at the combine 

I honestly think we’ll be lucky if he’s there at 8

So many of those "test off the chart at the combine" type of guys end up just physical freaks who never pan out though.

I'm not saying that's the case for him, but in general, I hate going after guys who fly up draft boards because of the combine, tape speaks for itself.

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7 hours ago, TD alt said:

Yeah, but I don't see it as a possible overpay in regards to talent---Higgins has shined when Chase wasn't even on the field (he has)---it may be an overpay if Higgins continues to be hurt for games at a time. 

Given the available options in FA this year, Higgins is likely going to end up getting a Top 5 WR money type of contract in the end.

You don't think that will be an overpay?

He's good, but he's not even Top 10 WR good, let alone Top 5

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9 hours ago, CarolinaLivin said:

Not trying to prove any point just thought about what higgins stats were when chase is out, found this

Tee Higgins has had 31 catches for 511 yards and has scored 3 touchdowns in 5 games without Ja'Marr Chase in his career.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/tee-higgins-stats-without-jamar-chase

Hell he had over 900 yards his rookie year. That’s before they had Chase and Burrow only played like half the year..

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1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

Given the available options in FA this year, Higgins is likely going to end up getting a Top 5 WR money type of contract in the end.

You don't think that will be an overpay?

He's good, but he's not even Top 10 WR good, let alone Top 5

Higgins is very good. He hasn't even nearly hit his ceiling, and he very well could be a top 10 receiver in the league. Ochocinco thinks he's a top 10 receiver already. Shannon Sharpe says top 15.  As for getting paid, all the top receivers get their turn. That's just the nature of the game. 

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2 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Higgins is very good. He hasn't even nearly hit his ceiling, and he very well could be a top 10 receiver in the league. Ochocinco thinks he's a top 10 receiver already. Shannon Sharpe says top 15.  As for getting paid, all the top receivers get their turn. That's just the nature of the game. 

Sure, everyone gets their turn, and when the teams pay guys like Higgins, Top 5 money, they generally end up being overpays because while they're really good, they just don't provide the ROI on that contract.

It's nothing against Higgins, I like the player, but with his injury history, Chase always taking the main attention, having Burrow as his QB, and the lack of top WR FA's, it has all the markings of being a bad signing compared to whatever he's going to get.  

The Patriots with all their cap room could give him a Top 3 WR contract and he plays really well for them, and it still be an overpay in the end.

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