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3 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

We need to do better than Patrick Jones in terms of upgrading the pass rush. Also need to get someone under contract opposite Horn at CB.

It isn't an upgrade on anything other than depth. I don't think this is a guy they signed with thoughts of him being a starter. If it is, we are royally fuged.

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8 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Luckily, unless Bryce has a major breakout next season, we aren’t gonna have to make that choice until after his 5th year. 

Nope

We're either extending or trading/cutting Bryce next offseason, I would be shocked if it's anything other than one of those two things.

If he doesn't have a breakout, there is no way in a QB heavy draft we can just run things back again, he has to be replaced.

If he does breakout, there's no way we let him have a 2nd breakout season on top of it and end up forcing us to pay him even more the following offseason.  It's always better to extend your QB earlier than later, as every new QB deal re-sets the market, so waiting would just cost us more cap room in the end.

 

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8 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Early signings are almost always bigger deals. Nothing unusual.

I would have been happy to have him but $26 mil is just not a price I would have been happy about.

Big pay leads to higher expectations.  We would have been disappointed.  His stats were achieved in the best possible conditions last year.  Teams had to pass against them--pin your ears back and go.  And the OL was not trying to stop him--they were focused on his teammates.  Good player, but not Aaron Donald.

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1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

Big pay leads to higher expectations.  We would have been disappointed.  His stats were achieved in the best possible conditions last year.  Teams had to pass against them--pin your ears back and go.  And the OL was not trying to stop him--they were focused on his teammates.  Good player, but not Aaron Donald.

Definitely. I think he would have struggled to match the expectations here based on the salary. 

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4 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Nope

We're either extending or trading/cutting Bryce next offseason, I would be shocked if it's anything other than one of those two things.

If he doesn't have a breakout, there is no way in a QB heavy draft we can just run things back again, he has to be replaced.

If he does breakout, there's no way we let him have a 2nd breakout season on top of it and end up forcing us to pay him even more the following offseason.  It's always better to extend your QB earlier than later, as every new QB deal re-sets the market, so waiting would just cost us more cap room in the end.

 

I don't know that I agree that it is a QB heavy draft class in 2026. A chunk of the "upper end" projected guys are players that could have gone pro this year in a very, very weak class and opted not to. If Manning proves to be a flameout, it might look pretty similar to the current 2025 class in terms of strength.

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2 minutes ago, Dingo_ate_Babies said:

Some of these contracts teams are shelling out for mid level players are bonkers. This why we need to focus on building through the draft with the cap space we have left.

Being wild spenders in free agency rarely leads to sustained success. The draft is always the best place to build long term success. 

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't know that I agree that it is a QB heavy draft class in 2026. A chunk of the "upper end" projected guys are players that could have gone pro this year in a very, very weak class and opted not to. If Manning proves to be a flameout, it might look pretty similar to the current 2025 class in terms of strength.

It has potential to be soild.  Manning, Nico, Allar, Sellers, Nuss could all be 1st rounders.  Plus some mid level guys plus there are always random QBs who can have great years. 

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