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tukafan21 Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Chaos said:

Give me Cooper Kupp

We already have him, his name is Adam Thielen.

People need to stop thinking about every single player in a vacuum and look at how said player would compliment our existing roster and add something to it.

I've been a big fan of Kupp throughout his career, would have loved him in the past, but right now, given his injury issues, age, and already having Thielen, he just makes no sense to go after.

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pantherclaw Grand Master

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5 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We already made a guy with the "if healthy" distinction the highest paid DB in NFL history. How much cap and assets are we wanting to dedicate to "if healthy"?

That's the entire NFL. 

IF HEALTHY 

otherwise it's 

NFL= Not For Long. 

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tukafan21 Grand Master

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5 hours ago, Dingo_ate_Babies said:

No, lol. For several reasons.

First, the 9ers won’t trade him since they already traded Deebo.

Secondly, his contract is bonkers and the assets needed to acquire him would be way too much for a currently injured receiver. He is good, just not worth the trade.

We’re better off using our 8 pick on the best WR available in the draft.

I haven't bothered to look into it for 2 reasons, but I'm not so sure his contract would be bonkers for a team that trades for him.  Because the new team doesn't pick up the signing bonus portion or the cap hits that come from that, so depending how SF structured the deal, there is always a chance that it's actually not a bad contract for a team to trade for.

But the two reasons that doesn't matter is because if SF is actually willing to trade him, to me, that screams they're concerned about his recovery from the injury and would make me not want him based on that alone.  And the second is that if his injury recovery is fine, then in the end, they're not going to trade him anyways, so it's all moot to begin with.

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4 hours ago, jtm said:

I don't think WR is as desperate as many here believe it is.  Post-benching Bryce didn't have any issues putting points on the board and moving the ball.  With an average to above average defense, the Panthers are a respective team.  I suspect Coker, Legette, and Sanders will be much improved with a year under their belt.  I'd love to see them grab a stud WR, but they shouldn't take on a bad contract.  

It's easily a bottom 5 WR group.

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