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NFL execs on the Panthers offseason


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1 hour ago, CanadianCat said:

Parity is a thing in the NFL I dont think its shocking to see bad teams become good when you plug in a few key players and decent coaching. But sustained success is harder to achieve. 

Houston made a big jump year 1 with CJ and came crashing back down this past year. 

 

They made the playoffs this past year as well

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1 hour ago, rebelrouser said:

They should not.  This rebuild will require another round of free agency and a good draft in '26. Not sure why anyone would think we are on the verge of mediocrity. 

Sure but our schedule is pretty easy and manageable 

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Most folks know that in close ballgames the difference comes down to one team executing on key downs and the other not. 2 years ago our defense was not good but our offense was terrible. Last year we started out terrible on both sides of the ball and the offense really gelled toward the end. Honestly there is no reason to believe our offense will regress. I think it will improve playing together and developing chemistry with each other. And the defense will be better because Brown and Brown will be a wall and shut the middle down while still collapsing the pocket on passing downs. Something that never happened last year. Pressure on the qb makes the back seven much better as they don't have to try and cover for 5 seconds on every play until someone comes open. We still  need some linebackers who can bring pressure, tackle but also cover TEs if needed. Is that too much to ask?

What I hope is that whatever position we choose, we find more dogs who like to scrap and work hard. Everybody working together without a bunch of prima donnas. 

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5 hours ago, CanadianCat said:

 

Houston made a big jump year 1 with CJ and came crashing back down this past year. 

 

 

They had the exact same outcome in 23 and 24

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6 hours ago, CanadianCat said:

Parity is a thing in the NFL I dont think its shocking to see bad teams become good when you plug in a few key players and decent coaching. But sustained success is harder to achieve. 

Houston made a big jump year 1 with CJ and came crashing back down this past year. 

 

do tell about this "crashing back down"

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5 hours ago, rebelrouser said:

They should not.  This rebuild will require another round of free agency and a good draft in '26. Not sure why anyone would think we are on the verge of mediocrity. 

Going from 5 wins to  6/7 is really unacceptable.  Especially with our schedule.  Unlike Vashti I dont think people will get fired but I do think going into 2026 the heat will be ratcheted up to about 10.  But she is correct that if we only win 6/7 people are going to question bryce, Canales, EE, Morgan etc.

 

I hate to think what this team looks like if we have to do another rebuild after 26. 

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6 hours ago, CanadianCat said:

Houston made a big jump year 1 with CJ and came crashing back down this past year.

I don't mean to come down on you individually here. But I have to say. Please for the love of anything sacred can you and others stop with this idiotic cope? The Houston Texans regardless of the struggles they dealt with in 2024 have made the playoffs and won a playoff game in back to back seasons after being one play away from the first overall pick in 2022. Our Panthers haven't made the playoffs since 2017. We have got to stop carrying water for these decision makers here in Carolina and trying to diminish other franchises. Nobody in this organization has earned even a shred of benefit of the doubt.

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1 minute ago, frankw said:

I don't mean to come down on you individually here. But I have to say. Please for the love of anything sacred can you and others stop with this idiotic cope? The Houston Texans regardless of the struggles they dealt with in 2024 have made the playoffs and won a playoff game in back to back seasons after being one play away from the first overall pick in 2022. Our Panthers haven't made the playoffs since 2017. We have got to stop carrying water for these decision makers here in Carolina and trying to diminish other franchises. Nobody in this organization has earned even a shred of benefit of the doubt.

but but but CJ wouldnt have won in Carolina

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

but but but CJ wouldnt have won in Carolina

I don't know if playoffs was in the cards..the NFC is doodoo soo...maybe? But he for sure would have played better than BY over these 2 years. 

I mean Texans also drafted will Anderson, who is a legit top tier edge. They also had a log-jam of offense talents waiting to blossom once a real QB was throwing. Plus, Texans didn't trade a kings ransom for Stroud, like a lower end #1 WR on the best contract value in the NFL. 

They also had the new juice from HC, OC(rip in 25), and DC. Add in luck and bang.    

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