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Reason for Liking or Disliking Prospect X at 8 Overall

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CarolinaLivin Grand Master

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Give your reasons for why the Carolina Panthers should or shouldn't select prospect _____________ at 8 overall. 

Sell me on the prospect and fit. Regardless of who you think we will select or who will actually be available come draft day.

I am honestly locked in on Mason Graham. Pairing him him with Derrick Brown... 

6'3 1/2

~296lbs

32" arms

9 1/8" hands

I do fully understand the size concerns with him, but his short-area burst and lateral quickness, high-motor, active/accurate hands, footwork, and play recognition  will very much help him succeed at the next level. He will definitely need to work on his bull rush and honestly his pass rush skills in general do need to develop as well, but Graham would immediatly step in and upgrade our run-defense.

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That's sound logic! I think we could make a case for a few players. I know its not popular  with a few but Warren gives to the  identity we want. Tremble is mostly a blocker. Sanders flashed late but mostly a receiving  threat at the moment. Warren is an automatic 1st down, run blocks, runs the ball and can even line up and throw it. To me he is if you took the Taysom Hill and actually could play tight end too. I just think looking at Goedert, Kelce,  Laporta, Hoeckenson, Baltimore Tight ends, Knox and Kindcaid and etc... all the  last few teams had stellar Tight end play. Warren allows you to be unpredictable  on offense bc he is equally good at being a target, as he is a blocker. Don't want to run Bryce on a qb sneak, plug Warren in with the threat to pass. I would be happy with him, Walker or a few others. As long as the player isn't riding the bench year 1. 

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11 minutes ago, rodeo said:

We just spent so much in free agency on DT to draft another one. BBIII is only 25 years old.

 Very few teams (including the panthers) don't need more talent on the D line.  If he's there you grab him for now, for the future, and it elevates all other positions when you have a talent like that.  LBs can move, DBs need to be in coverage less time, higher pressure for mistakes on the opposing offenses QB and line.  The value and ceiling is too high to miss.

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I don't want Shemar Stewart because his measurables scream potential #1 overall draft pick while his production screams UDFA. He's honestly a guy who should be mid-late round boom/bust pure athletic potential type of pick, not a potential top 10 pick.

I'd like Jalen Walker because I just think he's a football player. Turn on a UGA game and see which guy just jumps off the screen on defense. It's him.

Would not be mad about T-Mac or Warren.

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5 hours ago, CarolinaLivin said:

Give your reasons for why the Carolina Panthers should or shouldn't select prospect _____________ at 8 overall. 

Sell me on the prospect and fit. Regardless of who you think we will select or who will actually be available come draft day.

I am honestly locked in on Mason Graham. Pairing him him with Derrick Brown... 

6'3 1/2

~296lbs

32" arms

9 1/8" hands

I do fully understand the size concerns with him, but his short-area burst and lateral quickness, high-motor, active/accurate hands, footwork, and play recognition  will very much help him succeed at the next level. He will definitely need to work on his bull rush and honestly his pass rush skills in general do need to develop as well, but Graham would immediatly step in and upgrade our run-defense.

He's normal to  big for a 3/4 DE

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3 minutes ago, csx said:

He's normal to  big for a 3/4 DE

Yeah, I was thinking he's the type of guy who would be an end in odd fronts and move inside in even fronts like Aaron Donald. Not saying he's Aaron Donald, just saying a similar usage in terms of alignment.

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In very very simple terms

Good deep defense draft, weak offense overall minus RB and TE.

8th use it on Tmac who should get better if he chooses to. Panthers need a legit pass catching weapon. The odds of that being at 57 or later are very silm. Where as you theres like a 30% chance of finding a defense starter. I like 30 > 2%.

Panthers.....well if they had good scouts..... should be able to draft defense starters into the 4th round. The odds for offense fall off a clip around the top 20 picks for offense starters. (minus rb and te).

Everyone wins, BY has another young WR to grow with and defense gets its much needed talent and depth. 

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Mason Graham- Doesn’t fit current scheme. Classic 3Tech, UT, One gapper. 

Tyler Warren- Position value

Jalon Walker- Statistically unremarkable and small for a 3-4 OLB. Which is what his position will be. 
 

Mykel Williams- Statistically unremarkable. Limited bend and no win now step. 

Shemar Stewart- Athletic DJ Johnson. Has 0 moves, 0 plan. 
 

Mike Green- Character flags

James Pearce- Character flags, soft

TMac- One note player, didn’t play vs the best. Did a lot as a jumbo slot. 

Ashton Jeanty- Position value

Will Johnson- Lacks explosion, effects recovery

Jahdae Barron- Short arms

Edit….shitttt I misread the assignment. 
 

Give me Tyler Warren because he’s a 10 year plus starter and the sure bet.  Was athletic enough to play tailback and QB sneak. 
 

Only negative is position value.


 

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Swaggasaurus said:

Mason Graham- Doesn’t fit current scheme. Classic 3Tech, UT, One gapper. 

Tyler Warren- Position value

Jalon Walker- Statistically unremarkable and small for a 3-4 OLB. Which is what his position will be. 
 

Mykel Williams- Statistically unremarkable. Limited bend and no win now step. 

Shemar Stewart- Athletic DJ Johnson. Has 0 moves, 0 plan. 
 

Mike Green- Character flags

James Pearce- Character flags, soft

TMac- One note player, didn’t play vs the best. Did a lot as a jumbo slot. 

Ashton Jeanty- Position value

Will Johnson- Lacks explosion, effects recovery

Jahdae Barron- Short arms

Edit….shitttt I misread the assignment. 
 

Give me Tyler Warren because he’s a 10 year plus starter and the sure bet.  Was athletic enough to play tailback and QB sneak. 
 

Only negative is position value.


 

 

 

 

Yep this year sucks for having the 8th.

I hate to bring this up, but the bears pick 39th(panthers pick).... that pick feels within 5% of who ever is drafted at 8. 

 

 

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