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A good chance at chaos?

Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
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44 minutes ago, rayzor said:

i mean outside of hunter, is there anyone in this draft that teams are going nuts over? 

most other years would Ward have been the top pick? probably not. 

i think that there will be some really good starters in the first round this year, but i don't know that anyone is looking at this class going "all pro player, right there"

that's probably the root of some of it. people looking to get into the 1st round are probably the most desperate of the desperate grasping at straw instead of studs hoping that they can get a position of need filled. i mean that's usually the case, but i think usually it would have been harder to try and trade into the top ten. just doesn't feel like this draft has much to offer at the top of it. like most of the top 10 would have been middle to late first rounders other years. 

it's just not an exciting class. i'm probably looking at it wrong, but that's just what my really uninterested and uneducated eyes are seeing.

It's Hunter and Carter then a drop off to a second tier of players. 

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7 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

It's Hunter and Carter then a drop off to a second tier of players. 

I don't think Jeanty is a 2nd tier player.  He just happens to be RB in the year 2025. 

and I'm going to go out on a semi limb.....I think Travis Hunter is going to disappoint in the NFL.   Given the hype.  Solid player.  But I think he is going to be over drafted off this illusion he can play 2 spots in the NFL.  I think he plays one and isn't dominate. 

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3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's a great year to be a smart team. With all the perennially dumb teams sitting in the top 10 wanting to trade down there will probably be a perennially smart team identify a guy who may not stand out from the pack from a pure talent perspective but who does stand out from the pack in terms of fitting what they're looking for at that position of need and they'll jump up the draft board at a bargain to get him.

It's always a great year to be a smart team - that's why they keep winning and we keep floundering in the basement of the NFL.

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