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2025 NFL Draft - Day 2 Discussion


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4 minutes ago, DeSim said:

lol detroit gave up waaay more to move up 3 spots with denver than what we gave up to move up 6 spots with them.

 people mad at our trade are silly, to put it nicely 

The trade was complicated and I would love to know how they worked that out because we didn't lose anything, It's just we can get our guys here and you can get your guys there type of thing, Much like that Buffalo trade last season. We seem pretty good at moving up a little for basically nothing. I know nothing about the player but PFF was really praising this pick for us where we got him and for the trade. Hopefully they're right. He's young too so not immediate impact likely but if he pans out he could be productive for us for a long time. 

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6 minutes ago, DeSim said:

lol detroit gave up waaay more to move up 3 spots with denver than what we gave up to move up 6 spots with them.

 people mad at our trade are silly, to put it nicely 

I would've thought so too, but we gave up 10 extra points of value in our trade and Detroit gave up 11 points of value. So they ended up being pretty even. Dropping from 74 to 85 is a bigger drop in value based on the draft value chart than dropping from 130 to 230 (55 point difference vs 42 points).

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4 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Come on. Take Shadeur. I wanna watch a train wreck 

I forgot about him. He's still there isn't he? I wonder if he goes day 3 now? The teams that passed on him earlier, are any of them interested in later or is it just a straight out they dont want him?

 

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Just now, Panthers Rhule said:

I forgot about him. He's still there isn't he? I wonder if he goes day 3 now? The teams that passed on him earlier, are any of them interested in later or is it just a straight out they dont want him?

 

His interviews were really bad... Like really really really bad. 

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1 minute ago, Panthers Rhule said:

I forgot about him. He's still there isn't he? I wonder if he goes day 3 now? The teams that passed on him earlier, are any of them interested in later or is it just a straight out they dont want him?

 

Shedeur will be the 6th QB taken in the 6th round and win 8 super bowls 

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Just now, carpanfan96 said:

His interviews were really bad... Like really really really bad. 

I can believe it. But still, usually someone just throws crap at the wall but I'm now actually curious to know if it's not a question of where but that it's just no, we don't want him anywhere. 

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