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Are the Panthers still coddling Bryce?


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When Cam was quarterback and needed help after his first two years and we rarely brought him any: Can we get the man some receivers and some tackles?! He would kill it if he had help!

When Bryce is quarterback, needs help, and we continually try to bring in help for him instead of drafting a replacement after year 2: Are we coddling him? 

Huddle gonna huddle.

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4 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

When Cam was quarterback and needed help after his first two years and we rarely brought him any: Can we get the man some receivers and some tackles?! He would kill it if he had help!

When Bryce is quarterback, needs help, and we continually try to bring in help for him instead of drafting a replacement after year 2: Are we coddling him? 

Huddle gonna huddle.

Yeah, some people are still bitter about how we never surrounded Cam with good receiving talent. But repeating that same mistake simply because we made it work with Cam would be peak idiocy. Cam was a unicorn in that he could legitimately carry an offense without a lot of help. He could lead your team in passing and rushing both. There are just very, very few of those guys out there and no QB has ever failed because he just had too many weapons. LOL 

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3 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Objectively, what sort of stats does Bryce need to put up in passing yards/TDs/TOs for the ones that are still on the fence to come around? 

Yes, it’s a very loaded question. 

I'm not on the fence at all, but I think INDIVIDUAL stats that SHOULD silence the critics would be something like:

60+ completion %

3500 yards passing

25 TDs 10 Ints

150-200 yards rushing and 3 TDs

 

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5 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

I'm not on the fence at all, but I think INDIVIDUAL stats that SHOULD silence the critics would be something like:

60+ completion %

3500 yards passing

25 TDs 10 Ints

150-200 yards rushing and 3 TDs

 

I think that’s very fair and I sincerely hope it does. I can’t believe I have turned in to a BY defender. 

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27 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

When Cam was quarterback and needed help after his first two years and we rarely brought him any: Can we get the man some receivers and some tackles?! He would kill it if he had help!

When Bryce is quarterback, needs help, and we continually try to bring in help for him instead of drafting a replacement after year 2: Are we coddling him? 

Huddle gonna huddle.

Just like we're coddling Jaycee Horn by bringing in defensive linemen and safeties.  SMH

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2 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

I think that’s very fair and I sincerely hope it does. I can’t believe I have turned in to a BY defender. 

I'll be honest, I thought I was going to have to jump ship after the first two games of last season. Which sucked because I don't usually get MASSIVE and UNSHAKEABLE conviction about a lot of guys in the draft, but Bryce was one that I did. The only other pick I wanted more than Bryce was Luke. 

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I honestly think he will continue where he left off but my biggest concern is still physics. He’s a small guy in a big man game. His evasiveness has greatly improved and he’s popped up from every big hit like it’s nothing thus far, but the moment will come where he doesn’t just pop up. It has and will happen to ALL QBs in their pro career. If he bulked up to a true 200 lbs, I’d feel much more comfortable. 

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56 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Objectively, what sort of stats does Bryce need to put up in passing yards/TDs/TOs for the ones that are still on the fence to come around? 

Yes, it’s a very loaded question. 

To silence all of them. Multiple SB wins.

Personally I am not yet convinced but I have more hope than I did after the first two games last year.  

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I mean nothing is wrong with some coddles but we’re simply acquiring weapons.

This isn’t overindulgence or anything to compensate for Bryce/make him extra comfortable. It’s to elevate this offense and add firepower that can win us games. Need to score if you wanna win.

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2 hours ago, WUnderhill said:

Don’t be too hard on OP, he was just going along with the accepted huddle group think of the past 2 years and thought he would get pies and grumbles of agreement.

Pie doesn't really mean as much as it used to sadly

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