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An honest look at Bryce Young

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Tr3ach Grand Master

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

True but we havent been lucky since 2011, so in a sense I guess we are due lol

Lol yep.  Hopefully Bryce proves he is here to stay and he deserves that second contract without a doubt this season.   I think there is a chance that he does.  If he doesn't, right now this next qb class is definitely looking like a decent one to need a qb on but you never know how it will play out this coming college season.  

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13 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

Why are we talking about Cam?

Cam wishes he was as accurate as Bryce. 

That's enough of Cam. 

I can't believe that there is anybody that thinks Bryce is going to struggle in this offense.  That just shows me that Byyce will never be their QB. 

If he was he would still be in the league.... Cam never learned to play QB without relying on his athletism and rocket arm. 

 

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To me Bryce's ceiling is his backup, Andy Dalton, in his prime.  Sure, he may get us some winning seasons and may even get us to the playoffs on occasion, but with an early exit.  To me he doesn't have what it takes to be elite and it takes an elite QB to consistently get deep into the playoffs.  He's not Jackson, he's not Mahomes and he's not even Allen.  In an organization like Philly, he possibly could have what it takes to make a deep run, but let's face it...Philly is well oiled machine and and we are a GMC Grimlin.

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I find it funny those who continue to hate on Bryce based on his rookie year when he had zero weapons or offensive line have a problem with those of us projecting his career from the 8-9 games where he played like a top 10 QB and made more big time throws during that period than any other QB.  The stats may not have been there in terms of yards or TD passes but that’s coming as the roster improves. For those who think physical traits can overcome roster deficiencies we all witnessed how Mahomes looked under pressure that Bryce faced for most of his rookie year, we saw what happened with Stroud when he faced less than ideal circumstances. 

None of us were creating posts proclaiming Bryce as the next Brady but we can’t just sit idly while thread after thread is created continuing with the  anti Bryce tropes  instead of supporting him and just letting him continue to develop. 
 

 

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9 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Yea but they benched him last year. I think if Dalton hadn't got hurt we may have never seen Bryce again

Possibly, but luck was ultimately on Bryce's side because offensive injures started to rack up and Dalton looked exposed after that Raiders game.  Remember, Thielen went down for several weeks during that Dalton stretch and the O-line had some bumps and bruises.  Just about the time Bryce was inserted back into the lineup everyone started to get healthy. 

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Bryce can be average to above average and lead us to great seasons and a Super Bowl.  How many QBs have won a superbowl ring and not been that fantastic that day and relied on the rest of the team.  Or played average all year and elevated their game in the playoffs? The team wins or loses and it isn't dependent on the qb to be all world. What I see is hopefully a team that runs the ball and passes when they need to. I think Bryce showed when the pressure is on he now steps up where before he crumpled.  Teams who blitzed him at the end of the year paid the price which is huge. It isn't total stats but how you do on third down and making big throws when everyone knows you are going to pass. I think that transfers from year to year and improves with a strengthening cast and experience. And something he did consistently in college.

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1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

I think Bryce showed when the pressure is on he now steps up where before he crumpled.  Teams who blitzed him at the end of the year paid the price which is huge. It isn't total stats but how you do on third down and making big throws when everyone knows you are going to pass. I think that transfers from year to year and improves with a strengthening cast and experience. And something he did consistently in college.

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The Panthers upgraded the offensive talent so that the PANTHERS could win football games. The offense now a ton of talent and DEPTH. Ask any coach/GM if they could have a dominating offense or defense which would they choose? Of the 2, it’s offense all day.

Eagles don’t sniff the SB without Barkley. Home run hitter. 3 and out insurance policy. Defense stays fresh. It’s not the other way around. Far more games are won converting on thirds than stops on third. Dominating defenses are there to seal the deal. 

2003 went from SB to suck from losing their WR1. 2005 was an almost. 2015 went from dominating to never again. Never a back to back winning season. Revolving door coaches. No true offensive depth and talent, EVER. 

Now that the offense looks loaded, the same fans who pounded the table for #1 to get some DUDES again remind everyone how misused and cheated he was… well he was and everyone knows it. The coaching was bad. System. Talent…. Bad, except for a few players. Bad. Could he have developed in to a more complete player with better everything. Yes…. But good lord get over it. This is not righting the wrongs of the past because that is not possible. This is trying to win games in the NFL, the way everyone else is doing it. 

Will BY throw for more yards and TDs this year than Cam did in 2015. Very likely. But so what. I hope he does. I hope all of Cam and Jakes records are obliterated one day because it will likely mean the Panthers are winning more football games. To feel otherwise is obtuse. 

Defense was not and is not being ignored. What Dan and Dave have accomplished in 2 off seasons with the offense is nothing short of a miracle. They obviously know what a grown ass football player looks like. What logical reason is there that indicates they can’t/won’t do the same on defense. 

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Bryce has a horrible rookie year

Huddle: poor guy needs an o line and some wr

Panthers get him an o line and wr

Half the huddle: man he sucks since he can't do anything without an o line or wr ( even tho all world mahomes looked mediocre with no o line and only a hof te and mediocre wr - even tho they've drafted a wr in the 1st, 2 in the 2nd and 1 in the 4th in the last 4 years) 

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13 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

Love anyone whom quote a season that is really a story of 2 halves.  Keep reaching.  

 

And that is actually the concern. Great qbs put together FULL seasons of good ball. There is no benching to clear your head or taking a break. Are we gonna get a full season of good play this year?  It's really not hard to understand. 

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16 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

And that is actually the concern. Great qbs put together FULL seasons of good ball. There is no benching to clear your head or taking a break. Are we gonna get a full season of good play this year?  It's really not hard to understand. 

I am confident he'll be fine this year.  

That's also not hard to understand.  

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9 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

And that is actually the concern. Great qbs put together FULL seasons of good ball. There is no benching to clear your head or taking a break. Are we gonna get a full season of good play this year?  It's really not hard to understand. 

What I saw was huge improvement going from terrible to one of the top 10 qbs by year end. I don't just want good play, I want continued improvement as he spends year 2 in the same system with the same guys (with a few upgrades) and Canales goes into year 2 as a head coach. I want Bryce to continue to show that he is worthy of the top pick in the draft.  I think I will be disappointed if he is just good unless he keep getting better as he goes. He is finally got the talent and coaching he needs. Given how chaotic Tepper'reign has been, I think we have really lowered our expectations. Which is totally understandable to avoid abject disappointment each year.

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1 hour ago, PantherChris said:

If he was he would still be in the league.... Cam never learned to play QB without relying on his athletism and rocket arm. 

 

It's 2025 and people are still saying this?

Cam's not playing anymore because Kelvin Benjamin is a lazy ass WR and TJ Watt targeted his shoulder.

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      An honest look at Bryce Young

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      Cam was hitting his stride as a QB in 2017/2018.     This is why I think stats like completion percentage are overrated. As long as a QB is clutch and makes the throws to win the game the rest doesn’t really matter. What good is a check down stat padder if they’re a choker.  Until Norv Turner (and briefly Chud) got here we put Cam in high pressure throwing situations all the time. We also ran the ball on first down more than most teams in the NFL in the Ron era. Coupled with shitty WRs, all that is expressed in his stats. I also assume Cam took the ball in his hands on many occasions rather than trust Funchess to catch the ball.    It was also never Cams job to play the game like someone else. His presence on the field dictated the game in a way that is rarely seen.  He showed he could play the dink and dunk game just before TJ Watt. That didn’t suddenly make him better than his earlier seasons. He just got put in a legit under center  passing game again for first time since his rookie year with Chud.    Ron took the quickest path to success and abused the RPO because his ass was about to get fired.    Cam never got the credit for being the cerebral player that he was. I just think when you are legitimately a human Superman, sometimes the best play is having the ball in your hands. He was a better passer than Delhomme was. 
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      An honest look at Bryce Young

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      I don't think Canales has any problem benching Bryce or moving on if Bryce doesn't come out playing like the end of last year.  It's year 3 no more excuses for Bryce
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      An honest look at Bryce Young

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      Yea Bryce was definitely a top half qb the second half of last season but I'm not sure Canales is 100% sold on him.  Like I've said in another post I think that's part of why we talked to so many South Carolina players in the draft process.  I think they are doing early due diligence on Sellers just in case.
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