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How would you feel if Bryce did this in 2025

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panthers55 Grand Master

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Delhomme was average physically but his fire and competitiveness meant he often showed up at big moments. He relied on others to get the yards. Bruce is similar. His strength is his processing speed and elusiveness in the pocket. He won't overwhelm you with athleticism and needs the team to do the work for him. Like most teams their quarterbacks are average. If everyone got 30 tds to 10 into,  then that would be average.  You know who else had average physical skills? Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.

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8 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Delhomme was average physically but his fire and competitiveness meant he often showed up at big moments. He relied on others to get the yards. Bruce is similar. His strength is his processing speed and elusiveness in the pocket. He won't overwhelm you with athleticism and needs the team to do the work for him. Like most teams their quarterbacks are average. If everyone got 30 tds to 10 into,  then that would be average.  You know who else had average physical skills? Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.

Dude.........

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21 hours ago, Growl said:

that’s incredibly comparable to Mahomes’ stat line from last season

The league has moved past the mid 2010s insane production bump league wide that we saw in that window these past few seasons. I think people are setting outrageous expectations for what constitutes a “solid” season. 

This.... for over a decade now defenses have gotten lighter and faster to combat pass happy attacks, the last few seasons you have seen a TON of power running teams becoming very successful because of it.....  

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6 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Even when Bryce performs above expectations,  and get will perform above expectations,  because so many of you just refuse to believe he is capable.......

Wheb he performs above expectations,  y'all will just use the excuse of it's his surrounding cast. 

Perform above expectations?   Lol wut?

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1 hour ago, PantherChris said:

This.... for over a decade now defenses have gotten lighter and faster to combat pass happy attacks, the last few seasons you have seen a TON of power running teams becoming very successful because of it.....  

Most see it. Others are repeating a decade old mantra and not adjusting to changes.

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1 hour ago, PantherChris said:

This.... for over a decade now defenses have gotten lighter and faster to combat pass happy attacks, the last few seasons you have seen a TON of power running teams becoming very successful because of it.....  

The Browns were the most pass happy team at 65% and the Eagles the least at 43%. It seems that most teams were somewhere in the 60-40 mix. Interestingly we were the 9th ranking team passing the ball around 59%. So every team needs an effective running game to avoid being one dimensional. And defenses need to be build to defend both the run and pass to avoid being easily exploited like we were last year.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

The Browns were the most pass happy team at 65% and the Eagles the least at 43%. It seems that most teams were somewhere in the 60-40 mix. Interestingly we were the 9th ranking team passing the ball around 59%. So every team needs an effective running game to avoid being one dimensional. And defenses need to be build to defend both the run and pass to avoid being easily exploited like we were last year.

 

 

If you’re pass happy it’s most likely because you’re always down by a score or two 

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If you’re pass happy it’s most likely because you’re always down by a score or two 

Only 4 teams ran more than than threw the ball 

and 3 of those teams were getting 100+ rushes from the QB spot 

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If he throws for damn near 4k and 30 TDs, he's in contention for comeback player of the year if our record is above .500

To hit 3900 he'd have to average around 230 or so. Reasonable expectation for a franchise QB but Idunno if I'd make that bet yet.

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33 minutes ago, ColumbusCounty said:

If he throws for damn near 4k and 30 TDs, he's in contention for comeback player of the year if our record is above .500

To hit 3900 he'd have to average around 230 or so. Reasonable expectation for a franchise QB but Idunno if I'd make that bet yet.

We threw for 3400 yards in 2024. Just lessening drops alone could have added 300 yards.  And with familiarity in the scheme I dont think that 3900 would be hard to reach. Maybe what holds it down is running to finish the game if we are ahead versus passing to try and get back in it like last year.

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