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Cam Little 70 yard FG

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3 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

 

Yes and no

End of half situations, sure, but in reality, even if he has the leg for that long of a kick, 98 times out of 100 they aren't going to even consider it because missing it gives the other team crazy good field position.

This 100%. If you miss your opponent gets the ball on their side of the field.

Massive risk except for the scenarios you listed above.

70 yards is crazy as hell though.

Hope he doesn't hit one like that against us in Week 1

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1 minute ago, Seltzer said:

This 100%. If you miss your opponent gets the ball on their side of the field.

Massive risk except for the scenarios you listed above.

70 yards is crazy as hell though.

Hope he doesn't hit one like that against us in Week 1

70 yards is not the concern though.  If he can make it consistently from 65 yards, that means that anytime they get two yards beyond the 50, they are going to kick.  

Of course, the key word is consistently.  Just because he made this one, doesn't mean he makes the next two or three.  

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3 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

70 yards is not the concern though.  If he can make it consistently from 65 yards, that means that anytime they get two yards beyond the 50, they are going to kick.  

Of course, the key word is consistently.  Just because he made this one, doesn't mean he makes the next two or three.  

Nobody is consistent from 65 yards.

Justin Tucker is the best long distance kicker in league history and even he's only 64/96 from 50+ in his career.

So again, they'll try those super long ones in end of half situations or in the 2nd half of games to where a made FG will tie or take the lead.  But in the first half or when they have a lead (or down more than 3 points), they aren't going to be trying many 65+ yard FGs.

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13 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Yet

Twenty years ago, 55 or more was a significant risk.  Now its somewhat common.  

Sure, but correct me if I'm wrong, they also changed the missed FG rules a little while back (maybe 5ish years ago I think?).

Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but years ago, if you missed a FG, the other team got the ball from the LOS, but now they get the ball where it was kicked from, right?

If I'm remembering it right, that meant missing a 55 yard FG with the old rules would give the ball to the other team at their own 38 yard line, where as a miss from 65 yards now gives them the ball at your own 45 yard line.

10 yard difference in the FG length, but 17 yards difference in field position for the other team.  When you combine that with how much stronger kicker's legs are today, the risk level for a 55 yarder back then is nowhere near comparable to a 65 yarder now.

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8 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

70 yards is not the concern though.  If he can make it consistently from 65 yards, that means that anytime they get two yards beyond the 50, they are going to kick.  

Of course, the key word is consistently.  Just because he made this one, doesn't mean he makes the next two or three.  

It is a concern in a potential late game situation that comes down to last possession. Separately if he kicks consistently between 50 and 60 it also results in more points per possession during the course of the game. 

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