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Week 1 - Panthers @ Jaguars (practice tweets, news articles, videos, etc)


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7 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

No, the reporting of those was in that order. Hence the comment.

The order of the reporting maybe, but they werent happy with his conditioning and then put him on a workout program which he apparently worked on.  There is smoke there regardless of what you believe because its not a totally normal thing to put a player on a team regulated workout plan, it can happen though. 

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16 hours ago, raleigh-panther said:

Evero’s defense will make Etienne look like Walter Payton 

Dang, I forgot this was a brother vs brother showdown, at first I thought you got confused. Little bro might not even be active though.  Also... pie for the Walter Payton reference, I loved watching that man run!

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23 hours ago, Icege said:

Renfrow said he had others, but he was either going to play for the Panthers or not at all. Said Bryce called him during the process and that when he was released the team mentioned that the Thielen trade might be coming. Got the news while picking up a trailer at his other job. Also said that Canales told him that he didn't think that he was physically ready yet but wanted him back on the practice squad. The Coker injury changed the calculus.

This is what I thought Canales' plan was. Now that these details plus AT opting to take a big pay cut to go home to Minny, the WR shitshow is making more sense.

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5 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

Dang, I forgot this was a brother vs brother showdown, at first I thought you got confused. Little bro might not even be active though.  Also... pie for the Walter Payton reference, I loved watching that man run!

Last time older bro Etienne had a nice game......Carolina was in town. 

 

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2 hours ago, CRA said:

Trevor went 14 out of 17  

Bryce went 4 out of 8 

Trevor had 3 drives.  Scored on 2 of the 3.  Zero 3 and outs. 

Bryce had 5 drives. Scored on 1.  Four 3 and outs. 

I mean, if you had to pick one in terms of rolling into the season.  The Jags starters had a better preseason. 

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I'd like the defense to be different and take the Jags off guard. It was puzzling what we did in preseason, so I am hoping that they just were vanilla and didn't put forth effort. With D. Brown, B. Brown and Moehrig, we should focus on completely shutting down the run. They aren't going to improve that much on defense from last year, but with those three additions,they should at least focus on stopping either the run or pass instead of letting both be terrible

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19 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

I'd like the defense to be different and take the Jags off guard. It was puzzling what we did in preseason, so I am hoping that they just were vanilla and didn't put forth effort. With D. Brown, B. Brown and Moehrig, we should focus on completely shutting down the run. They aren't going to improve that much on defense from last year, but with those three additions,they should at least focus on stopping either the run or pass instead of letting both be terrible

Except they have shown nothing of Brown starting at NT and still have Wharton listed as the starter XD

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23 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

I'd like the defense to be different and take the Jags off guard. It was puzzling what we did in preseason, so I am hoping that they just were vanilla and didn't put forth effort. With D. Brown, B. Brown and Moehrig, we should focus on completely shutting down the run. They aren't going to improve that much on defense from last year, but with those three additions,they should at least focus on stopping either the run or pass instead of letting both be terrible

it would be awesome to see Horn shadow BTJ.  But odds are at like 1%. 

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1 hour ago, Manna said:

I predict/assume we will start the season off on the wrong food as usual. There doesn't seem to be any kind of urgency in the team. I'd treat every game as must-win. 


DC seems soft to me. The team just never looks all that prepared. I expect a slow start. Maybe they pick up a bit towards the end like last year.

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